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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/muhammad-alis-son-detaine...

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Muhammad Ali Jr. was detained and questioned at a Washington airport before being allowed to board a flight to Fort Lauderdale after meeting with lawmakers to discuss a separate airport detention incident last month, a lawyer for the late heavyweight champion's son said Friday.

Ali and his mother, Khalilah Camacho Ali, were stopped at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport after returning from Jamaica on Feb. 7. They traveled to Washington on Wednesday without incident to speak to members of a congressional subcommittee on border security about that experience.

But attorney Chris Mancini said that when Ali attempted to board a JetBlue Airways flight home to Florida on Friday he was detained for 20 minutes. Mancini said Ali spoke to Department of Homeland Security officials by telephone and showed his driver's license and passport before he was allowed to board.


And within the continental U.S., no less. Fear and hate have NOT made our country GREAT AGAIN! It's just one gigantic cluster fuck, sir.
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.
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costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.


Whoever said that is wrong. Illinois State ID cards are valid forms of ID for travel until REAL ID kicks in fully on 1/22/2010. The state has an extension under that law.

And the moment that he produced the passport, the ID question should have gone away completely.

This may be the gate agent more than TSA or CBP, but the whole story is dumb.
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costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.

You have to have a driver's license to fly? Are these people making this up as they go along? Do they spin a wheel like in The Game of Life to come up with today's prerequisites?
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sodaklady wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.

You have to have a driver's license to fly? Are these people making this up as they go along? Do they spin a wheel like in The Game of Life to come up with today's prerequisites?


They aren't making it up - you have to have a valid ID that meets certain criteria. Most/most state DLs qualify, as does a valid passport and some other picture IDs.
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wifwendell wrote:
sodaklady wrote:
costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.

You have to have a driver's license to fly? Are these people making this up as they go along? Do they spin a wheel like in The Game of Life to come up with today's prerequisites?


They aren't making it up - you have to have a valid ID that meets certain criteria. Most/most state DLs qualify, as does a valid passport and some other picture IDs.

Thanks, Wendell. I haven't flown since 1982 and I don't miss it a bit! laugh
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perfalbion wrote:
costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.


Whoever said that is wrong. Illinois State ID cards are valid forms of ID for travel until REAL ID kicks in fully on 1/22/2010. The state has an extension under that law.

And the moment that he produced the passport, the ID question should have gone away completely.

This may be the gate agent more than TSA or CBP, but the whole story is dumb.


And as soon as he produced his passport it did go away completely.
Yes, sure the requirement was extended. Perhaps it was simply a mistake, perhaps it was a retaliation. The OP did not present the facts that he was stopped because there was a problem with his ID, could have been a computer error. Who knows.

Yes the whole story is dumb.


But as has been demonstrated, some don't even realize you need a proper identification to travel domestically via air. (as was put into place under the Obama Administration by the way) I think the requirement is dumb. But it's much more outrageous to claim "retaliation" when he was detained for like 20 minutes. Did not miss a flight or anything apparently. It's certainly possible it was intentional, but that seems difficult to prove.
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perfalbion wrote:
costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.


Whoever said that is wrong. Illinois State ID cards are valid forms of ID for travel until REAL ID kicks in fully on 1/22/2010. The state has an extension under that law.


Should that be 2020?
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costguy wrote:
And as soon as he produced his passport it did go away completely.


I don't think we have all of the information yet. I've seen stories where they continued to question him after the passport was produced.

Which really doesn't get around the fact that an Illinois state-issued ID card is an entirely legal form of ID, so he shouldn't have been questioned/stopped in the first place.

Like I said, I suspect this is a mistake on the part of the gate agent rather than the TSA or CBP because this happened at check-in. And it's entirely possible that this is being blown out of proportion. But I doubt that we'll really know that for another day or two - the idiocy of the 24-hour news cycle means that we'll get lots of noise without any actual sound for a while.
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qzhdad wrote:
perfalbion wrote:
costguy wrote:
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he was told that his Illinois-issued identification card, which expires in 2019 but is not a driver’s license, was invalid for flying.


Whoever said that is wrong. Illinois State ID cards are valid forms of ID for travel until REAL ID kicks in fully on 1/22/2010. The state has an extension under that law.


Should that be 2020?


It should!
 
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perfalbion wrote:
costguy wrote:
And as soon as he produced his passport it did go away completely.


I don't think we have all of the information yet. I've seen stories where they continued to question him after the passport was produced.

Which really doesn't get around the fact that an Illinois state-issued ID card is an entirely legal form of ID, so he shouldn't have been questioned/stopped in the first place.

Like I said, I suspect this is a mistake on the part of the gate agent rather than the TSA or CBP because this happened at check-in. And it's entirely possible that this is being blown out of proportion. But I doubt that we'll really know that for another day or two - the idiocy of the 24-hour news cycle means that we'll get lots of noise without any actual sound for a while.
I think we are in agreement.
 
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