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I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry
 
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ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?
 
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No. Supposedly they are using a more complicated type of mold this time that allows for a more detailed plastic though.
 
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Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.
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cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.


huh interesting. all our molds are made of stainless steel. Why would you use a soft compound mold? Cheaper I guess?
 
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Lowecore wrote:
cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.


huh interesting. all our molds are made of stainless steel. Why would you use a soft compound mold? Cheaper I guess?


and why hand poured!??

minis are so small, we'd knock out 200,000 in a 12 hour shift. Must take a long time to make minis this way.
 
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Lowecore wrote:
cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.


huh interesting. all our molds are made of stainless steel. Why would you use a soft compound mold? Cheaper I guess?


The type of high quality resin David is asking about is considerably more brittle than plastic. All but the flattest, least detailed pieces would be destroyed removing them from a steel mold.
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Lowecore wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.


huh interesting. all our molds are made of stainless steel. Why would you use a soft compound mold? Cheaper I guess?


and why hand poured!??

minis are so small, we'd knock out 200,000 in a 12 hour shift. Must take a long time to make minis this way.



https://manticblog.com/2017/02/28/mantic-games-resin-miniatu...
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It's already been asked a few times in the KS comments section.
Thiago answered that CMON has no plans to make resin minis for RS.
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cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
cormor321 wrote:
Lowecore wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


why would resin minis cost more? Plastic resin with an mfi of 1.3 is $2.85/lb. Do you mean pewter?


Resin minis are typically hand poured in small batched with a very sort lifespan for the molds.


huh interesting. all our molds are made of stainless steel. Why would you use a soft compound mold? Cheaper I guess?


and why hand poured!??

minis are so small, we'd knock out 200,000 in a 12 hour shift. Must take a long time to make minis this way.



https://manticblog.com/2017/02/28/mantic-games-resin-miniatu...


What a great article! Thank you for posting. I was really interested in how this process is done on such a small scale.

I work in plastics but we mass produce the items. First step for us is the commissioning of a mould, all our moulds are made of stainless steel for durability. Then the mould is adjusted for the customers preferred thickness and the colour of virgin resin is chosen. Depending on how stiff the customer wants the plastic widgets we can soften the compound with magnesium silicate.

The first part of the process is the extruding of the plastic that will be used in the thermoforming process. We also use a vacuum sealing system in in our molding machines, but our form times are dramitically shorter. From super-heating, to forming, and cooling... it takes about 30 seconds per mould impression. Actual forming time is less than 3 seconds.

After cooling the product being produced moves along the assembly line to be die punched and packaged, then out to shipping and to our customers. We are capable of taking an order for up to a million units and have it produced and delivered within 14 days. To think about someone producing these miniatures in a single room by hand is just mind blowing for me hehe.
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ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.


Well, it's not like CMON's the only manufacturer of Japanese feudal miniatures.

Lead Adventurers has a forum that might help: http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?board=86.0

Zenit Miniatures had some recommendations:


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ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


I've never seen a resin miniature. Are they really that much nicer?

Though if they are more brittle I definitely want the plastic because I value durability very highly.
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skies wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


I've never seen a resin miniature. Are they really that much nicer?

Though if they are more brittle I definitely want the plastic because I value durability very highly.


They typically show fine detail better than plastics but yes, they are brittle and will break much more easily than anything but the hardest plastics.
 
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skies wrote:
ScoobyG wrote:
I know it's a long shot (they've never done it so far as I know), but if there's ever been a cmon game that deserves resin minis this is the one.

Go ahead, crush my dreams with all the logistical and financial reasons this can't be done cry


I've never seen a resin miniature. Are they really that much nicer?

Though if they are more brittle I definitely want the plastic because I value durability very highly.



There are a couple of resin vs. hard plastic comparison shots on this page for Kingdom Death (they're of the Phoenix model):

https://shop.kingdomdeath.com/products/kingdom-death-monster


EDIT: Also, just google "resin vs. plastic miniatures" or something like that and you should find a bunch of comparison images.
 
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I just pulled a few minis from different cmon games; kaos ball, zombicide black plague, rum & bones 2nd tide, blood rage. All these games are top tier when it comes to mini quality. However, one of these games stands above the others; I'd totally forgotten how awesome Kaos Ball's minis look. The level of detail is pretty incredible:





Also it seems it's a different type of material than the other games - plastic seems harder. Not 100% sure about this.

tl;dr if we can't get resin can we get kaos ball quality? whistle
 
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Anyone know what the actual Rising Sun minis are made from? Are they PVC still (like Blood Rage) or are they ABS (like Scythe)?

Thanks!
 
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