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http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/13/news/economy/donald-trump-bu...

Yes, we'd all like to buy American, and be patriotic, and help our fellow Americans by doing so. But this article nails it on the head, the main reason we don't - economics. Everyone wants to buy American, until it comes time to pay for it. Sure, there are exceptions to the rule, but poll after poll (and the sucess of Walmart and other cost effective providers) demonstrate that the guiding factor most times is money out of our pocket.
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Plus, "buy American" when it comes to some things (strawberries, say) means doing without for parts of the year, like we used to do before expanding trade...
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One of those races to the bottom. No one wants to think about the consequences of not paying your neighbor for products/services as long as you can buy what you want. People will complain about factory jobs lost overseas on their way to Walmart to buy things they can afford with their stagnant wages. It doesn't seem sustainable.

EDIT: And the wealth disparity grows daily. You can't grow a complete and holistic economy by not recycling money back to the consumers. We've created an amazingly efficient engine to suck all the money out while minimizing any input. The problem being, that model has an end point.
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wifwendell wrote:
Plus, "buy American" when it comes to some things (strawberries, say) means doing without for parts of the year, like we used to do before expanding trade...


Too true. Additionally, many complex manufactured goods combine parts created in assembled in the US AND elsewhere.
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Rulesjd wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
Plus, "buy American" when it comes to some things (strawberries, say) means doing without for parts of the year, like we used to do before expanding trade...


Too true. Additionally, many complex manufactured goods combine parts created in assembled in the US AND elsewhere.


Back around the turn of the century I was helping train a Xerox new hire who had a prospect who was insisting on buying an American made copier. I told her that some components were made in Mexico and some in Canada but it was all assembled in the USA.

She went on her appointment alone but called me from her meeting with a question. "John, is Mexico part of North America?"
"Yes."
"And Canada?"
"Uh...yes. Canada, too."
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abadolato01 wrote:
we'd all like to buy American


Actually, no, not all of us.

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TheChin! wrote:
One of those races to the bottom. No one wants to think about the consequences of not paying your neighbor for products/services as long as you can buy what you want. People will complain about factory jobs lost overseas on their way to Walmart to buy things they can afford with their stagnant wages. It doesn't seem sustainable.

EDIT: And the wealth disparity grows daily. You can't grow a complete and holistic economy by not recycling money back to the consumers. We've created an amazingly efficient engine to suck all the money out while minimizing any input. The problem being, that model has an end point.


One that Henry Ford, not exactly a champion of socialism, recognised. His modern successors seem to lack his insight.
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wifwendell wrote:
Plus, "buy American" when it comes to some things (strawberries, say) means doing without for parts of the year, like we used to do before expanding trade...

From the taste of those "strawberries", I'd say they should have stayed wherever they were grown! Grown some of your own and see the difference. The same with those tasteless, hard tomatoes. Some things just don't translate.
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Dearlove wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
we'd all like to buy American


Actually, no, not all of us.



So I take it you dont watch the world series either.
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There are a few things that I generally prefer to buy American. Hand tools are one. Chinese hand tools are usually made of cheaper metals so they don't last as long.
 
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Koldfoot wrote:
mlcarter815 wrote:
There are a few things that I generally prefer to buy American. Hand tools are one. Chinese hand tools are usually made of cheaper metals so they don't last as long.


I saw an interesting statistic years ago that 90% of power tools are bought and used once or twice in their lifetime.


Shut up. I'm going to build lots of stuff...someday...
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brkmrtn wrote:
Dearlove wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
we'd all like to buy American


Actually, no, not all of us.



So I take it you don't watch the world series either.

Personally I don't but mostly people outside the US laugh at a World Series involving only North American teams.

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To include one Canadian team apparently.
 
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whac3 wrote:
brkmrtn wrote:
Dearlove wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
we'd all like to buy American


Actually, no, not all of us.



So I take it you don't watch the world series either.

Personally I don't but mostly people outside the US laugh at a World Series involving only American teams.


Well, if the Toronto team wasn't so terrible.
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I was promised a tour of an "American" factory as part of my job. It was near San Diego, so that would have been a cool trip, but the odd part was that I was told I would need my passport to visit the facility. American made, indeed.
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I was promised a tour of an "American" factory as part of my job. It was near San Diego, so that would have been a cool trip, but the odd part was that I was told I would need my passport to visit the facility. American made, indeed.
Probably in case there was an INS raid while you were there. Don't want to live out "Born in East L.A."
 
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