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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-tr...

Attention folks, our President did not mean what he said (tweeted). Ignore the man behind that green curtain.
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Of course, half of all Republican voters are still going to believe that Obama tapped Trump's phones until the day they die.
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toku42 wrote:
Of course, half of all Republican voters are still going to believe that Obama tapped Trump's phones until the day they die.


Mission accomplished.
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abadolato01 wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-tr...

Attention folks, our President did not mean what he said (tweeted). Ignore the man behind that green curtain.


When are they going to hold him legally responsible for what he says? He's the president. What he says matters.
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maxo-texas wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-tr...

Attention folks, our President did not mean what he said (tweeted). Ignore the man behind that green curtain.


When are they going to hold him legally responsible for what he says? He's the president. What he says matters.


Is it against the law to be a blithering idiot?

I mean, yeah, he's the president and all and it would be nice if he were held to some standards but presidents have been extemporizing facts since the beginning.

I think we're really going to have to learn to disregard the things he says (particularly on twitter) and pay attention only to the things he does (executive orders, proposed bills and such). Hopefully the world will follow suit.
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TheOneTrueZeke wrote:
maxo-texas wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/13/politics/sean-spicer-donald-tr...

Attention folks, our President did not mean what he said (tweeted). Ignore the man behind that green curtain.


When are they going to hold him legally responsible for what he says? He's the president. What he says matters.


Is it against the law to be a blithering idiot?

I mean, yeah, he's the president and all and it would be nice if he were held to some standards but presidents have been extemporizing facts since the beginning.

I think we're really going to have to learn to disregard the things he says (particularly on twitter) and pay attention only to the things he does (executive orders, proposed bills and such). Hopefully the world will follow suit.

In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.
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DavidDearlove wrote:
In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.


Fortunately, in America, you can say just about anything you want about politicians and other public figures.
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remorseless1 wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.


Fortunately, in America, you can say just about anything you want about politicians and other public figures.


There were lawyers who said Mr. Trump met the standard for libeling Mr. Obama by accusing Mr. Obama of a felony. And someone successfully told Mr. Trump to shut up about the issue and he started ducking reporters.

The bar is much higher for public figures but there is still a bar.
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maxo-texas wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.


Fortunately, in America, you can say just about anything you want about politicians and other public figures.


There were lawyers who said Mr. Trump met the standard for libeling Mr. Obama by accusing Mr. Obama of a felony. And someone successfully told Mr. Trump to shut up about the issue and he started ducking reporters.

The bar is much higher for public figures but there is still a bar.

Dude, there are lawyers who will sue anyone for a price. Read Sullivan v. New York Times 1964, in which the Times accused a US general of inciting violence against protestors. The Times won because the man was a public figure of high standing, and the Court did not want to suppress vigorous, sometimes pointed debate. Trump did not accuse Obama of molesting his children, he accused Obama of misusing the power of the presidency to attack a political foe. True or not, it falls within the parameters of Sullivan.
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
maxo-texas wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.


Fortunately, in America, you can say just about anything you want about politicians and other public figures.


There were lawyers who said Mr. Trump met the standard for libeling Mr. Obama by accusing Mr. Obama of a felony. And someone successfully told Mr. Trump to shut up about the issue and he started ducking reporters.

The bar is much higher for public figures but there is still a bar.

Dude, there are lawyers who will sue anyone for a price. Read Sullivan v. New York Times 1964, in which the Times accused a US general of inciting violence against protestors. The Times won because the man was a public figure of high standing, and the Court did not want to suppress vigorous, sometimes pointed debate. Trump did not accuse Obama of molesting his children, he accused Obama of misusing the power of the presidency to attack a political foe. True or not, it falls within the parameters of Sullivan.


So what youre saying then is that it was a propaganda piece by Trump...
 
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And spicer flatly lies that conway was joking about microwaves being used to bug Trump when she doesn't smile, laugh, or give any indication she was joking in the interview and it's clear that the microwave was just another part of the rest of her answer.. which she was supposedly not joking about.

It's amazing how these (joking) lunatic (/joking) people working for the (joking) most currupt, insane, and truth challenged (/joking) white house in (joking) the history of (/joking) the whitehouse can individually parse jokes out of the middle of sentences. Microjoking is a special skill like pivoting.

And then their spokesperson goes to a full lid and baldly lies about it to a room full of reporters and he knows he's lying and they know he knows they know he's lying.

Clearly Kellyanne was just making crap up to try and pivot from the the allegation that Mr. Obama had wiretapped Mr. Trump and she just rambled on and spewed about microwave ovens as surveillance devices which she'd probably read on some conspiracy site. But that was a pivot to begin with because Mr. Trump had used very specific language in his tweet that he'd been "tapp"ed.

A better man that Mr. Trump would apologize and move on. Mr. Trump has simply stopped responding to media questions and his administration is throwing of chaff to try and distract everyone. And his tweet was almost certainly chaff to distract from the russian issue to begin with especially with his curious insistence that the intelligence committee investigate it instead of the appropriate judiciary committee (and conservative senator graham's getting a bit irritable over that issue).

The entire thing is getting to be like Russian nesting dolls.

Another russian link to the trump administration!
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brkmrtn wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
maxo-texas wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
In the UK there is a good chance Trump would have received a written for libel. You Americans, however believe free speech includes lying deliberately.


Fortunately, in America, you can say just about anything you want about politicians and other public figures.


There were lawyers who said Mr. Trump met the standard for libeling Mr. Obama by accusing Mr. Obama of a felony. And someone successfully told Mr. Trump to shut up about the issue and he started ducking reporters.

The bar is much higher for public figures but there is still a bar.

Dude, there are lawyers who will sue anyone for a price. Read Sullivan v. New York Times 1964, in which the Times accused a US general of inciting violence against protestors. The Times won because the man was a public figure of high standing, and the Court did not want to suppress vigorous, sometimes pointed debate. Trump did not accuse Obama of molesting his children, he accused Obama of misusing the power of the presidency to attack a political foe. True or not, it falls within the parameters of Sullivan.


So what youre saying then is that it was a propaganda piece by Trump...

Undoubtedly so.
 
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