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If a goblin is in a dark tile it cannot be targeted by arrow? How would the Knight hit a goblin? To flip the dark tile they'd need to move into the space and attack the goblin anyway? Can they arrow before they attack? What would be the point?

Can a spored goblin reduce a population of a already 0 or 1 population tribe and leave their 3 or 4s alone?
 
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Re: Visibility re bombs?
EntropyGuardian wrote:
If a goblin is in a dark tile it cannot be targeted by arrow? How would the Knight hit a goblin? To flip the dark tile they'd need to move into the space and attack the goblin anyway? Can they arrow before they attack? What would be the point?
The Bow (or anything else that requires visibility) can be used to shoot into a dark tile, it just can't shoot through them.

For example:
D = Dark
L = Lit


[D][L][L][L][L][L][D]
In this setup, you could shoot from one Dark tile into the other, or to/from any of the Lit tiles in between.

[D][L][L][D][L][L][D]
In this setup, the Dark tile in the middle blocks visibility for the Dark tiles on either end. You could shoot from one of those at a target on the Dark tile in the center, but you cannot shoot from the Dark tile on one end to the Dark tile on the other end.

As for why you'd use the Bow before attacking, sometimes you run into a Tribe that's simply too strong to attack directly. If you shoot it with the bow first you'll reduce its population, making it easier to beat with a direct attack. Other times you might want to do it just to knock down the looming threat, especially if they're sitting too far to reach with normal movement.


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Can a spored goblin reduce a population of a already 0 or 1 population tribe and leave their 3 or 4s alone?
The Tribe has to have population to lose - you can't choose a Tribe already at 0.
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Re: Visibility re bombs?
That makes bow make a lot more sense to me. I was thinking bow needed to have its target be lit. Catching a gobbo in the light seemed like a huge pain. And if they were sitting tantalizingly in the dark there isn't a way to light up that tile other than that vantage point or to just attack them outright.

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Is visibility only in a straight Line? if so, the knights bow action can only be used against goblins if they are in a orthogonal line and the spaces are some form of " [D][L][L][D] " ?
 
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Ser_Lancelot wrote:
Is visibility only in a straight Line? if so, the knights bow action can only be used against goblins if they are in a orthogonal line and the spaces are some form of " [D][L][L][D] " ?
Correct.

There's no diagonal movement, attacking, or shooting in the game, except where it's very specifically allowed (like the Goblins' Underworm, or certain rolls when using the Dragon's Claw attack).
 
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Re: Visibility re bombs?
The knight can never shoot the bow FROM a dark tile. That's because when the knight enters a dark tile, the tile must immediately be revealed and resolved.
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kc2dpt wrote:
The knight can never shoot the bow FROM a dark tile. That's because when the knight enters a dark tile, the tile must immediately be revealed and resolved.
True, but the exact same concept of visibility also applies to the Goblins' Wisp and Slingshot (new promo card), and the Thief's hand crossbow, all of which can be used while on Dark tiles.
 
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