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Keith Anderson
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I'd like to pick up a new abstract game. I like the idea of one that has some 3D element but am open to others. I'm considering Tak and Santorini or even the old Torres. Your favorite newer abstracts? Why?

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For a 3D element, SEVEN and Pent-Up are my current favorites. I also like Zaic a lot. And Shibumi is great with many different games using the same equipment (stacking balls on a 4x4 base).

I give some more info and reasons why I like them in this geeklist: Nestorgames explored by russ.

I've also played Tak (only a few times) and enjoyed it. I've not yet tried Santorini, alas.
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I'm new to this hobby, but I recently bought YINSH (from GIPF series which got reprinted in 2016) and has fallen in love with it. I haven't tried the others in the series but I heard that most of them are good, like DVONN and TZAAR.

I've also bought Santorini. It's a quick game even playing best of three. It's an interesting game but I love the simplicity and elegance of YINSH more.

I have no idea on (abstract) games with 3D elements so I can't help with that.

russ wrote:
I give some more info and reasons why I like them in this geeklist: Nestorgames explored by russ.


I have no idea there's a geeklist for Nestorgames which I'm thinking of getting some. Thanks Russ!
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While somewhat themey, and not terribly new, both Taluva and Medina are great and had re-releases within the past year or two.
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If you don't have Hive, get that first. Consider Kamisado also. I wasn't wowed by Taluva.
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Pablo Schulman
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Kind of 3D, Carnac is a great game.
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My favorite game along these lines is Medina. Another great game is Entrapment, though it doesn't have the same 3D dimension to it. Torres is outstanding as well, by the way.
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Nigel Ng
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da baum wrote:
Torres is outstanding as well, by the way.

And a good thing about Torres is that you can use it to play Santorini.
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Maurizio De Leo
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Torres, Santorini, Rumis (Blokus 3D)and Carnac are all good suggestions.

However, I think you should try the old and forgotten Pueblo
 
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Néstor Romeral Andrés
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I have both Tak, Santorini and Torres - all great games! However, my favorite among those are Santorini.

Torres feels to me more like a thinky eurogame while Tak and Santorini have more of a Chess feel to their gameplay.

While I like Tak, which feels old despite being new (the classic feel is a plus in my book), I like Santorini even more.

I know some potential players have a hard time ignoring the theme (Chibi Greek gods) of the new commercial edition. However, I do not mind the theme and it pulls in new payers that usually find abstract games too dry. Thus, Santorini has all the benefits of a solid abstract combinational strategy game (great gameplay with simple rules) and appeals to a broader base of payers. I.e. it is easy to get to the table. Also, I really dig the god powers which allow for interesting asymmetric play and great variability from game to game despite the same overall feel.

Anyhow, it is easy to proxy both Tak and Santorini using parts from other games. Thus, before buying any of these you could download the rules and try them out.

Axiom mentioned above is also great, and Super Quintillions are fun to play with.
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Emergo will serve you a lifetime.
 
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Dieter Stein
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So, stacking counts as 3D: Mixtour
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For 3D as said Taluva: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/24508/taluva

It looks really nice.

For a chess-variant: Onitama https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/160477/onitama

For a mix of abstract + imperfect information: Element https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/216403/element
 
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GIPF series at the moment (particularly DVONN, GIPF, ZERTZ, and TZAAR)
 
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