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Subject: Cheating: I found a bug in the game(why not?) - count rss

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Gans Andersen
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What does GF9 think about this?
I figured out how to count the amount of money from each player, so you can see the "level" as in Spartacus.
Method 1: to "draw" with a money





Flaw:At the beginning of the game may not have enough money to draw

Method 2: Count with one hand by one player


Flaw: Account limitation up to ~20

Method 3(my favorite): cheating patters whistle
1$ - first player(for example SAMCRO at left), 2$- second player, dice- third player. etc


Flaw: Account limitation up to ~18

What do you think? devil
 
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Elaborate? I have no idea what you are talking about...

You have found a code to transmit numbers with money, but to what end?
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MrMT wrote:
Elaborate? I have no idea what you are talking about...

You have found a code to transmit numbers with money, but to what end?


The priorities for manipulation change. "Hey, John, do not give the location to Peter, he has the same 10 money." When you do not know how much money Peter has, he can be ignored, and if he has the most money, first of all they will fight with the favorite. Or you will engage in disassembly with an outsider because of the little things, and knowing that he has little money, you can already prioritize differently. The amount of money directly affects the manipulation. As in Spartacus.
 
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Do you mean that you use your money to keep track of how much every other player has?
 
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Gans Andersen
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Mattias wrote:
Do you mean that you use your money to keep track of how much every other player has?


Well, ideally - to write down how much money, contraband and guns, but the pens and notebooks are prohibited.
Yes, count money ... improvised means such as money.. whistle
 
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I'm playing Munchkin(or Spartacus, etc), you play curses on the highest-level player, but how do players define the highest-level in the sons of anarchy? Only knowing the amount of money, otherwise it's a game blindly.Either train the memory or "write" with improvised means
 
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If you spent most of your time fiddling with your money to keep track of who has what throughout the game I don't think you'd be very fun to play with and I wouldn't want to play with you.

Part of the fun of this game is not truly knowing who has what and collectively guessing who should get screwed over only to be manipulated by someone else entirely.

Go be an accountant somewhere else.

And since you mention this may be a way to cheat, kindly refer to the rulebook which states don't be an ass, it's just a game, play to have fun. If you're cheating, you're an ass.
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darkranex wrote:
If you spent most of your time fiddling with your money to keep track of who has what throughout the game I don't think you'd be very fun to play with and I wouldn't want to play with you.

Part of the fun of this game is not truly knowing who has what and collectively guessing who should get screwed over only to be manipulated by someone else entirely.

Go be an accountant somewhere else.

And since you mention this may be a way to cheat, kindly refer to the rulebook which states don't be an ass, it's just a game, play to have fun. If you're cheating, you're an ass.


But if I have a phenomenal memory?
 
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Play with open money, then, if that is what you're wanting.
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I guess you're right, and I play like an ass. The problem is that the whole game I do not understand who is the leader and who is the outsider. I, for example, have $ 10 and I do not understand whether it is a lot or not at this or that moment of the game. So I started inventing ways of counting, so that the game was like Spartacus etc.
 
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OK, I get it now. You are tracking all other players' money total, using your money as a note taking system.

This does seem somewhat against the spirit of the game.

A degree of ambiguity over who has how much is part of the fun; misdirection as you quietly collect your fortune is integral.
 
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You're sucking the fun out of the game and spending much of the game in activity that does not reincorporate fun to others. Not to be a jerk but you wouldn't be one of my favorite people to play with.

This is Sons of Anarchy. More attitude less accounting.
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Now that I understand what you are saying I don't think it's a big deal if you do it. Keeping the system straight will probably be as much work as actually trying to remember what each player picks up. If it is important to you you might as well try to play with open information.
 
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More I agree than not soblue
And then what is meant by "manipulation": Trying to manipulate the other Gangs for your personal advantage is part of the game. Tell me how you understand this
 
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Zelwegerst wrote:
More I agree than not :soblue:
And then what is meant by "manipulation": Trying to manipulate the other Gangs for your personal advantage is part of the game. Tell me how you understand this


Don't need a card counting system to sow chaos.

You keep pointing out when another gang is making money and has built a machine. Don't overstate it - just quiet mentions of, 'wow, that's a pretty good money making machine you got there, can't believe I let that one slip' etc. Then maybe exaggerate your own losses. 'Damn, that really screwed me. I really wanted to make some money there and now I'm screwed. Oh well, them's the breaks. Well played, sir.'

In general, over-represent their wealth, as you underrepresent yours.
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Zelwegerst wrote:
darkranex wrote:
If you spent most of your time fiddling with your money to keep track of who has what throughout the game I don't think you'd be very fun to play with and I wouldn't want to play with you.

Part of the fun of this game is not truly knowing who has what and collectively guessing who should get screwed over only to be manipulated by someone else entirely.

Go be an accountant somewhere else.

And since you mention this may be a way to cheat, kindly refer to the rulebook which states don't be an ass, it's just a game, play to have fun. If you're cheating, you're an ass.


But if I have a phenomenal memory?


Counting cards at a casino isn't necessarily illegal, but if they catch you doing it they'll ask you to leave.

I also don't understand your comparison to Spartacus. Everything is open in that game and it's clear who has the most influence. That's not what SoA is about. I love both games, but they're very different. You can't try to play them the same way.
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