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Martin
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Here's a question: which games, and why, would you use to slowly introduce someone to wotr, whose only "similar" game to wotr so far was Risk Legacy.
 
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There is no real need to play other games before playing War of the Ring (well unless it is your first board game ever :-D). The bigger part is thinking about some teaching Variant, see:

Rafamirs Teaching Variant: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22525981

Starting without Character Cards: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/17912013
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Nosdasil wrote:
There is no real need to play other games before playing War of the Ring (well unless it is your first board game ever :-D). The bigger part is thinking about some teaching Variant, see:

Rafamirs Teaching Variant: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22525981

Starting without Character Cards: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/17912013

Well, let's just say that I tried to get my wife to play wotr with me once, with her never having played anything similar and it failed miserably Recently we finally got around to play my Risk Legacy and she's enjoying it a lot, so that got me thinking, that maybe the trick would be to slowly up the complexity with other games. whistle I'll have a look at those variants, maybe that'll be even better
 
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I think, for me, Risk is good to just teach the basis of a grand strategy game.

You might want to have a look at "The Battle of the Five-armies". It is a more polished WotR (but not necessarily better), with slightly less complexity and playtime.

It has neither the hunting mechanism for the Ring nor the Fellowship moving mechanic. Oh, the political system is also gone, reducing the number of things to worry about even more. The battles are different, somewhat more complex, but they are easy enough to get used to them.
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Nosdasil wrote:
There is no real need to play other games before playing War of the Ring (well unless it is your first board game ever :-D). The bigger part is thinking about some teaching Variant, see:

Rafamirs Teaching Variant: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22525981

Starting without Character Cards: https://boardgamegeek.com/article/17912013


I second this, particularly Raf's Ring of Doom variant (first link).
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I wouldn't use any stepping stones, you're just consuming time that could be better spent learning the real game. Also, I can't think of anything both simpler and similar to function in such a role.

At the root, WotR is a pretty simple game. You roll some dice, giving you a pool of actions. Take turns choosing one of your dice and executing its action. I try to encourage the new player to be Free People because their goal is more straightforward - get the ring to the crack of doom. Everything else you do is just buying time to complete this task.
 
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Battle of Five Armies could help a little.
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war of the ring is actually a pretty simple game compared to a lot of the other games out there. I actually find battle of the five armies to be a little more difficult to learn because of the complex combat and all the extra cards and general characters and abilities. In war of the ring there are only 2 decks of cards for each side and combat is simple. You draw 2 cards, roll some dice, and use those dice to perform actions... that's the entire game.
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Battle of five armies seems to dividing opinions a bit laugh

I agree that wotr is in principle simple, but can also be overwhelming to newcomers. Anyway, thanks everyone for the suggestions, those variants will hopefully make the trick
 
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Balerion84 wrote:
Battle of five armies seems to dividing opinions a bit laugh


It's my belief that this is in part because the majority of players learned it after they already played WotR. So it felt easier to learn because they already knew the shared mechanics and style of game.

For people who learned B5A first I don't think it's really any easier. It probably is a shorter game though, and it moves quicker because it's more tactical. That helps with newer players to enjoy it, even if the rules are not significantly easier.
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