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I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!
 
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Some cool articles I've read this month:

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21721134-high-stakes-...

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21721398-his-race-again...
 
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Actually the real award goes to the French electorate. They just prove themselves a smart enough not to make the lunatic bigoted choice in an election. Unlike their US and UK counterparts.

And interesting trivia about the new President of France. The age gap between him and his wife is the same as between Donald Trump and his wife.

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einsteinidahosu wrote:
I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!


Pretty tired of the 'neoliberal' slur though. The blatant hate for moderation is hard for me to take.
 
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And interesting trivia about the new President of France. The age gap between him and his wife is the same as between Donald Trump and his wife.



More interesting she is one of his former teachers.

And, indeed, we have now our youngest president and oldest first lady.

But to stay on politics, the important thing will be the election of the low chamber of the parliament on June.
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And interesting trivia about the new President of France. The age gap between him and his wife is the same as between Donald Trump and his wife.



More interesting she is one of his former teachers.


It would have been really interesting to see how well he would have fared in a US election as this is something that is generally frowned upon by the American public.

(I think they didn't have any illegal sexual activities, but I don't know.)
 
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(I think they didn't have any illegal sexual activities, but I don't know.)


Apparently there is material for the biopic "The Forbidden love of a future French president".
 
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Apparently there is material for the biopic "The Forbidden love of a future French president".


I'm sure the title would sound even better in French.
 
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Looks like Macron's "If you like school so much, why don't you marry it?" bully was way more persuasive than most smart kids'.
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Hats off to the French electorate for making one sane decision to buck the trend around the world - May, Trump, Duterte.
 
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To those American sympathizers wailing and gnashing teeth over the French election, may I propose practicing what you preach?

She lost. Get over it.
 
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So (results so far), amongst voters:
- Emmanuel Macron: 43,25 %,
- stayed at home: 25,3 %,
- Marine Le Pen: 22,48%,
- invalid vote: 8,96 %.
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Hey so guys (Americans) I don't think we're allowed to make fun of France anymore, since they are clearly smarter on average and have a more functional government than we do.
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Hey so guys (Americans) I don't think we're allowed to make fun of France anymore, since they are clearly smarter on average and have a more functional government than we do.


Better government, better health care, better education, better smell...

Well, the first three, anyhow. Vive la France!
 
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Xahendir wrote:
But to stay on politics, the important thing will be the election of the low chamber of the parliament on June.


Absolutely, no-one knows just how many seats EM! will get.

He has to pick his PM for the short time before those elections and it will be interesting to see what he does there.
 
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rylfrazier wrote:
Hey so guys (Americans) I don't think we're allowed to make fun of France anymore, since they are clearly smarter on average and have a more functional government than we do.


Better government, better health care, better education, better smell...

Well, the first three, anyhow. Vive la France!


Better vacation benefits.

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Hooray.. the EU lives a few more years.
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I'm not too surprised; once it was clear it was a Populist and a more conventional candidate the polls began swinging pretty solidly, especially over the last week.

We'll have to see how it goes I reckon. Either way, Viva Le France!


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einsteinidahosu wrote:
I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!


Pretty tired of the 'neoliberal' slur though. The blatant hate for moderation is hard for me to take.


Nothing moderate about neoliberalism at all.
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I'm not too surprised; once it was clear it was a Populist and a more conventional candidate the polls began swinging pretty solidly, especially over the last week.


That's been clear about the FN since the 80s. If anything, what is worrysome os that she got 35% of the vote, including about a third of Fillon's first-round voters.
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viclineal wrote:
windsagio wrote:
einsteinidahosu wrote:
I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!


Pretty tired of the 'neoliberal' slur though. The blatant hate for moderation is hard for me to take.


Nothing moderate about neoliberalism at all.


Label and dismiss. You might have a case if you weren't just arbitrarily assigning the label though.
 
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windsagio wrote:
viclineal wrote:
windsagio wrote:
einsteinidahosu wrote:
I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!


Pretty tired of the 'neoliberal' slur though. The blatant hate for moderation is hard for me to take.


Nothing moderate about neoliberalism at all.


Label and dismiss. You might have a case if you weren't just arbitrarily assigning the label though.


Dude, neoliberalism is one of the most academically and polítically explored movements in the post-war world.
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viclineal wrote:
Ferretman wrote:
I'm not too surprised; once it was clear it was a Populist and a more conventional candidate the polls began swinging pretty solidly, especially over the last week.


That's been clear about the FN since the 80s. If anything, what is worrysome os that she got 35% of the vote, including about a third of Fillon's first-round voters.


We're talking about recent history, which is more relevant here than reaching back a couple of decades.

I'm not surprised she got about a third; that's about the percentage that are more populist and radical than most French.



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viclineal wrote:
windsagio wrote:
viclineal wrote:
windsagio wrote:
einsteinidahosu wrote:
I've read a few articles and I'm not sold on Macron. Interesting ideas, but he's a finance guy, and I'm suspicious. If The Economist loves him, he's a strong neoliberal. Yuck. Obviously I'm not a fan of Le Pen though. It's cool how they built up a quick political party within one election cycle.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-39823865

The real award goes to the French who come up with cool names for their political parties!


Pretty tired of the 'neoliberal' slur though. The blatant hate for moderation is hard for me to take.


Nothing moderate about neoliberalism at all.


Label and dismiss. You might have a case if you weren't just arbitrarily assigning the label though.


Dude, neoliberalism is one of the most academically and polítically explored movements in the post-war world.


I did quick scan on the net, and I'm not really finding credible sources calling En Marche! neoliberal though, it's mostly commentators with half-knowledge.

Which is my point of course.
 
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Ferretman wrote:
I'm not surprised she got about a third; that's about the percentage that are more populist and radical than most French.


What I mean is that, if anything, we're witnessing the end of the consensus that the FN is out of bounds, not the sudden realisation that it is.

Le Pen's significant support amongst Fillon voters also means that the Sarkozy move of abandoning more traditional Gaullist positions and parroting far-right anti-immigrant and law and order talking points (with the invaluable help of Hollande and Valls doing the same) has worked. The FN used to define itself as a "fourth position" because one of the things it rejected was the French right with its very civic idea of the French nation (they supported an ethnic view of France instead), and the rejection was mutual. Sarkozy normalised far right discourse for short-term political gain and the result (oh surprise) is that French politics is getting darkly and dangerously far right.

She'll do better in the next presidential election, unless the other second round candidate is someone who gives a non-neofascist, non-chauvinistic narrative for the problems of most working class French voters of all origins.
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