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Mike Adams
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IM sure that most of us that own this game are familiar with what the YB-40 was, for those who don't know..........
When the B-17 was first designed it was thought that with all the defensive guns it carried fighter escort wouldn't be needed.
Well, that all changed as soon as the plane went into combat.
The YB-40 was a project to turn some standard B-17s into flying gunships.
The idea was to have individual YB-40s mixed in with standard B-17s.
The radio operators single .50 cal was removed and a second twin .50 cal top turret was put in its place.
The single .50 cal in each waist gunners position was replaced with twin pedestal mounted 50s.
The single mounted 50s in the nose were replaced with the twin 50 cal chin turret.
With the weapon changes and loaded with tons of ammo the YB-40s were slower than the bomb loaded B-17s.
YB-40s did not carry bomb loads.
When the project was ended it was decided to finish the last 200 B-17Fs with the chin turret and make it standard on the B-17G.
In the game this is accurately reflected by being able to add the chin turret on the B-17F but have it as standard equipment on the "G" model.
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Dudley Albrecht
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THe YB-40 was pretty much a bust; a good example of a "well, it looked good at paper" idea that was a failure in reality.
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But it makes a good option for the game.

It would probably be really useful with a fast group with a good AtA already. Could kill a lot of bandits.
 
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GrumpyOldGamer wrote:
But it makes a good option for the game. :)

It would probably be really useful with a fast group with a good AtA already. Could kill a lot of bandits.


My problem with the YB-40 is that, unlike fighters, there's no guarantee it's ever going to even engage a bandit. It's a long way to go to use a precious bomber slot on the off chance that an fighter will roll its number. :(

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Yea, I would rather have no escort than use a bomber slot on a gunship that may not be used. Maybe if you add a house rule "lure" ability, but even then...
 
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If you decide to use the YB-40 tech you're not giving up a bomb group.
Using the YB-40 tech just implies that a couple of bombers from that group are actually YB-40s and not standard B-17s.
It's not an entire group of YB-40s.
Out of a group of 48 planes only 2 or 3 would actually be YB-40s.
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MJA1967 wrote:

Out of a group of 48 planes only 2 or 3 would actually be YB-40s.


Sure, and they would be positioned in such a way that they'd have decent coverage over a tightly packed bomber formation. The YB-40s would presumably shoot down more enemy fighters. But that's not likely to happen if you use a YB-40 in the game. All you're doing it reducing your AtG efficiency in the hopes that a bandit might engage the YB-40. It's a trade-off that makes no sense to me. If the point is to call out the YB-40 variant of a B-17 as useless, mission accomplished. :)

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My original intent with my post was just to give a little insight into the YB-40 and what it's intended use was.
 
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