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I posted a display preview at the DDM page yesterday so I won't repeat it here (https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1781332/pathfinder-icons-re...), but I wanted to give you guys a heads up along with a few additional pics. While these are not HS figures, per se, nor are there stat cards to support them, they can be used as proxies to advantage in many cases and for the DYOs in the house, can serve as inspiration for home brewed creatures.





The columns are a recent addition and make for a solid look as well as a perch for flyers or for creating a tiered effect. They are made by a hobby craftsman and HS player, Joseph Quist (josephvquist@gmail.com).





Releasing concurrently is the new Icons of the Realm Epic Starter Set which, in my opinion, are some of the cleanest and most vibrant looking pieces I've seen in a while.





A Crown of Fangs Brick: $127.92 MSRP
A Crown of Fangs Booster $15.99 MSRP
Icons of the Realm Epic Level Starter Set: $19.99 MSRP
Court of the Crimson Throne: $49.99 MSRP

Release date is May.




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Are the columns 3D printed?
 
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Good question. Let's ask Joseph.

 
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This is Joseph. Thanks for the question! Yes, the columns are 3D printed. I paint them and give them an acetone vapor bath to finish them. A friend of mine does the 3D modeling.
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Some pathfinder and D&D minis are already used for custom figures created over at heroscapers.com (most of the regulars here probably already knew that). Darrak Ambershard is also regular D&D mini fig, actually.
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Good to hear on the crossover. More enjoyment for everyone.
 
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Warbanner wrote:
Darrak Ambershard is also regular D&D mini fig, actually.


As far as I know, all of the D&D Heroscape figures were available as D&D Miniatures. Some of them had slightly different paint schemes though. And others- the Water Elemental for example- while translucent in Heroscape, were painted opaque as D&D Miniatures.

That was part of the financial strategy when they switched the brand over to WotC, wasn't it? They thought they could save on production costs by reusing all those molds.
 
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This is Joseph. Thanks for the question! Yes, the columns are 3D printed. I paint them and give them an acetone vapor bath to finish them. A friend of mine does the 3D modeling.


That's cool. Have you done any other 3D printing projects for Heroscape? Seems like you could come up with some pretty cool terrain ideas. Not to mention creating your own versions of the hard-to-come-by tundra glaciers and Underdark rocks.
 
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Those columns are the first HS custom piece I'd consider paying money for. How tall are they in terms of HS tiles? Could you post a photo cleanly demonstrating that? Can you legally sell these and would you? How much?
 
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I'm very interested in EXACT height....top to bottom. Also if the base and cap are the thickness and shape, exactly, of an official tile.

It appears like the base and top might be water tile thickness? If so can you show any constructions comparing that? Or builds that work these cleanly into a castle, no other customs involved? Other customs can make it hard to gauge precise size.
 
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jcb231 wrote:
Can you legally sell these...?



That brings up a good point. I recently discovered the Craig Van Ness and Hasbro have a patent covering the hex-shaped interlocking terrain pieces used in Heroscape. I suspect these pillars might be violating that patent. But I'm certainly not a patent expert.

Edit: Here's the patent description:

https://www.google.com/patents/USD536392#v=onepage&q&f=false
 
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jcb231 wrote:
Can you legally sell these...?



That brings up a good point. I recently discovered the Craig Van Ness and Hasbro have a patent covering the hex-shaped interlocking terrain pieces used in Heroscape. I suspect these pillars might be violating that patent. But I'm certainly not a patent expert.

Edit: Here's the patent description:

https://www.google.com/patents/USD536392#v=onepage&q&f=false


Thanks for the concern. When I started this project, I did extensive research to verify the legality of what I am doing. (Because yes, I am selling them.) The patent you referenced is an ornamental design patent, which only protects the ornamental design, not the interlocking utility of each piece. So, as long as I'm not reproducing actual HS pieces, it is not patent infringement. The other document that has been brought to my attention (see thread at https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=53822 where we discussed this extensively. My tag name there is Aethiar) was a utility patent application protecting the actual interlocking mechanism
(https://www.google.com/patents/US20060043674). However, after further research, I found that application number in the uspto.gov archives. It has both a final rejection and abandonment by Hasbro (https://portal.uspto.gov/pair/PublicPair and enter the patent application number, 10/925,513 and then view the transaction history).

Please let me know if you have any other questions about the legality of what I'm doing. I made that a top priority when I started. Thanks for all the interest as well! Will be posting more about the columns shortly.
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So, where do we go to buy your stuff Joseph?
 
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TIM0THY wrote:
So, where do we go to buy your stuff Joseph?


Apparently, I'm not supposed to be promoting anything, so I'd better just refer you to the heroscapers forum for more info on the columns for now. Thanks!
https://www.heroscapers.com/community/showthread.php?t=53822
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As a head ups, this review set is available if anyone is looking for a set of 8.

 
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Robbage wrote:
As a head ups, this review set is available if anyone is looking for a set of 8.



Did I see it on Ebay over the weekend? The set I saw seemed a bit on the pricey side.
 
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Always nice to see people still being creative with Heroscape!
 
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jcb231 wrote:
I'm very interested in EXACT height....top to bottom. Also if the base and cap are the thickness and shape, exactly, of an official tile.

It appears like the base and top might be water tile thickness? If so can you show any constructions comparing that? Or builds that work these cleanly into a castle, no other customs involved? Other customs can make it hard to gauge precise size.


I'm interested in these questions still. Specifics of the item would be amazing.
 
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