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James Scribbles
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Hi all,

I was just curious as to the academic demographics of those who play board games (and visit BGG).

I would like to stress that I am not trying to say that those who do not have as many years in education are inferior in any way to those who are a Professor Emeritus, nor am I saying that people who play board games all fall into one of the categories. And I am definitely not saying that academic achievements are an indication of intelligence (I have known a lot of dumb academics).

I am just curious as to the correlation between interest in board games and the level of academia.

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What is your highest level of education (or rough equivalent)? This is written from a UK perspective, so apologies if I miss out some equivalents.
No formal qualification
GSCE/O-level/High School Diploma
A-levels/SAT II/Diploma
Undergraduate Degree
Masters Degree
PhD/DPhil/Doctorate
Other (please comment below)
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I have a Masters Degree

Here are my most played games:

#1: Elder Sign
#2: Eldritch Horror
#3: Pandemic: Reign of Cthulhu
#4: Pandemic: The Cure
#5: Arkham Horror: The Card Game
#6: Roll for the Galaxy
#7: Splendor
#8: Cottage Garden
#9: Nations: The Dice Game
#10: Royals
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I think its simply exposure. Its more likely that someone who has given more time to education is exposed to more hobbies and more nitch websites such as bgg.
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Oh wow. That's a lot higher of a percentage of people who have Doctorates degrees than I would have thought. I myself have a JD.
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I think it has more to do with who has more time and money to spend on boardgames.
It can be an expensive hobby.
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I think it is exposure to other gamers, and interest in the specifics of the hobby.

I know and have known a decent number of Uni Profs and K-12 teachers, and many of them could never fathom spending time on our hobby, as they would view it as a waste of their time.

So, interest and exposure, like any non-essential pursuit.
 
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I have a BS in Business Administration (Accounting Concentration), am a CPA and have 2+ additional years of college studying film (never finished).

I play board games
I read comic books
I watch old movies about dinosaurs and monsters

Not sure what any of this means, but I'm 53 years old and I'm still a kid at heart.

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I would think that people who get a lot of entertainment/value from exploring unfamiliar systems and making sense of them would be drawn similarly to academia and complex games. So there is likely a correlation there.
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Playing board games is a hobby that requires free time, space, often money, some degree of non-judgemental environment, some degree of privacy in your home, and so on. These various requirements are more likely to be accessible to people of the higher middle class and above than to those below. Therefore board games players will be disproportionally middle class+, and any trait that strongly correlates with being middle class+ (such being white, being a suburbanite, having higher education, and so on) will correlate with being a board game player.
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An interesting poll, I look forward to seeing the findings.
While I'm not a statistician myself, I would think that the results of this poll should be compared to statistics regarding what percentage of the general population achieve each named level of education, in order to really see if board gamers trend towards higher education than the rest.
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I think this poll has more to do with who uses BGG and has time to read forums than who plays board games.
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Sindrelf wrote:
I think it has more to do with who has more time and money to spend on boardgames.
It can be an expensive hobby.


I respectfully disagree (in terms of the money cost). I find boardgaming to be one of the cheapest hobbies I've ever pursued. I've been making under 30K for several years.

People gawk when they see my "massive" collection. But I can guarantee you that most of them have spent way more over the last 10 years going to the movie theater than I have on my boardgames. And I can still recoup a significant portion of that cost if I ever wanted to leave the hobby.

Now, as far as time is concerned...that's a different animal
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Perrin2017 wrote:
I think this poll has more to do with who uses BGG and has time to read forums than who plays board games.


Are you accusing us of selection bias?!?!
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Stewi wrote:
An interesting poll, I look forward to seeing the findings.
While I'm not a statistician myself, I would think that the results of this poll should be compared to statistics regarding what percentage of the general population achieve each named level of education, in order to really see if board gamers trend towards higher education than the rest.


I am a statistician (PhD in Statistical Epidemiology) and thats why I am interested in the statistics behind this.

Though as many people have said, it is likely correlated with any Middle Class traits. However, even so I think the results are already indicating that there is a higher percentage of PhDs than would be found, even within the Middle Class characteristic.

I do enjoy collecting and analysing data, so will be happy to do so if people want to find out certain things about the BGG community...
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jmsmith2434 wrote:
Perrin2017 wrote:
I think this poll has more to do with who uses BGG and has time to read forums than who plays board games.


Are you accusing us of selection bias?!?!


Breaking one of the Statisticians' Commandments
 
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Sindrelf wrote:
I think it has more to do with who has more time and money to spend on boardgames.
It can be an expensive hobby.


Not really in comparison. Loads of working class people go to the football. A season ticket for a Premiership club averages at around £500 per year. Plus a lot of fans will also go to away games and the cup games (not all of which are covered by the season ticket).

That is their choice - but being a football fan takes time and money too.

Many of these people also play video games too. Buying a console and 3 or 4 AAA games a year is also a chunk of money.

Money isn't the issue unless you are really struggling to survive. Even then many abstracts and many card games could be played for next to nothing.
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Nivanor wrote:
Oh wow. That's a lot higher of a percentage of people who have Doctorates degrees than I would have thought. I myself have a JD.

Due to the lack of an option for professional degrees (e.g. MD, JD etc.) I suspect that the "doctorate" figure is likely inflated by a number of physicians and lawyers who selected that option. I don't know how things work in the UK, but in the US those degrees are not considered equivalent.
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I have a Bachelors Degree in Business Administration. I was turned on to the hobby after all schooling was completed. I met a guy through running a basketball league at my church who asked if I ever played. I assume that I kind of thought he was dumb at first until we played a couple games. I think the first game was Catan and then Power Grid, after Power Grid I was hooked. Some of my favorite games now are:

Trajan - I just love the mancala mechanism and many routes to victory
Puerto Rico - The role selection and figuring out what is best for me or worst for others.
Terra Mystica - so much replayability with the many factions
Power Grid - love the bidding and knowing when to buy resources or not to and when to build or not.
Castles of Burgundy - Great incorporation of dice rolling into a strategy game. Ways to manipulate the dice to what you need.
Champions of Midgard - Love this worker placement more than similar ones (Stone Age/Lords of Waterdeep). Like the dice rolling for battles.
Orleans - Bag building/Pool Builder. Not much down time at all as all are pulling workers from their bags and figuring out how they will go about using those this round.
Legendary: A Marvel Deck Building Game - A deck builder very similar to Dominion, but with a theme. Plus, it is cooperative.
 
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I wonder what the difference in answers would be between people who browse BGG and all boardgamers.

Anyway, I have a PhD in computer science and I particularly enjoy heavy Martin Wallace and Splotter games.
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wamsp wrote:
Nivanor wrote:
Oh wow. That's a lot higher of a percentage of people who have Doctorates degrees than I would have thought. I myself have a JD.

Due to the lack of an option for professional degrees (e.g. MD, JD etc.) I suspect that the "doctorate" figure is likely inflated by a number of physicians and lawyers who selected that option. I don't know how things work in the UK, but in the US those degrees are not considered equivalent.


Right...although I suspect which one is higher depends on who you ask :-)
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wmspringer wrote:
I wonder what the difference in answers would be between people who browse BGG and all boardgamers.


Probably quite large, seeing as you basically need a PhD to navigate this site
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wamsp wrote:
Nivanor wrote:
Oh wow. That's a lot higher of a percentage of people who have Doctorates degrees than I would have thought. I myself have a JD.

Due to the lack of an option for professional degrees (e.g. MD, JD etc.) I suspect that the "doctorate" figure is likely inflated by a number of physicians and lawyers who selected that option. I don't know how things work in the UK, but in the US those degrees are not considered equivalent.


JD's and MD's arent equivalent to doctorate degrees? I'm confused. A JD and an MD is a doctorates degree.
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I think academia correlates better with having the time to post all day on the internet than it does with interest in board games.

Pete (has advanced degrees that allow him to be paid for sitting in front of a computer all day)
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wmspringer wrote:
wamsp wrote:
Nivanor wrote:
Oh wow. That's a lot higher of a percentage of people who have Doctorates degrees than I would have thought. I myself have a JD.

Due to the lack of an option for professional degrees (e.g. MD, JD etc.) I suspect that the "doctorate" figure is likely inflated by a number of physicians and lawyers who selected that option. I don't know how things work in the UK, but in the US those degrees are not considered equivalent.


Right...although I suspect which one is higher depends on who you ask :-)


Meh, not really. It's simply a fact that if a job requires a "PhD or equivalent", then a JD or MD will generally not be accepted. The LLM is the usual PhD equivalent in law, and a range of degrees can be applicable in medicine, depending on the precise field. Not knocking physicians or attorneys, their jobs simply don't require degrees as advanced as a PhD.
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Nivanor wrote:
JD's and MD's arent equivalent to doctorate degrees? I'm confused. A JD and an MD is a doctorates degree.

Precisely why I think the poll results are misleading.
 
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