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I am looking for my next medium/heavy euro and I cannot decide between these two.
They look different on a first look, but they are both worker placement (dice placement is a kind of wp) that you have to gather goods to satisfy a demand in order to get points and money(contracts on Voyages of Marco Polo/ beer recipes on Brew Crafters). Also both seem playable with 2 players, which is a big plus in my case.

Voyages of Marco Polo
is on my wishlist because I do not own any dice placement game. I used to have Castles of Burgundy. While I liked its mechanisms very much, the fact that some knowledge tiles would not appear on 2 and 3 player games was crucial for me, because clearly could work in favor of some players. Also I have traded away Grand Austria Hotel, because the dice could work against you and I found the depth of decisions actually below the average[/geekurl].

Brew Crafters seems like a solid worker placement, which scales well with all player counts and has an interesting theme, but I cannot tell the depth of it. Also I am afraid of it being a bit repetitive/not so exciting.

Here is a list of my tastes

Medium - heavy games I like: Terra Mystica,Fields of Arle, Concordia, The Gallerist, Vinhos, City of Iron (second edition)

Games will not buy: Viticulture Essential edition (Nice game, but I find too much luck involved in cards you draw), Myrmes (the theme!), Scythe (had it, played it, did't like it), Caylus (not bad, found it's mechanism a bit outdated), Food Chain Magnate (too heavy for some of my friends), Le Havre (I don't think I need another game with too many resources), Lord of the Ice Garden ( Heavy kingmaking problems), Russian Railroads (The theme does not appeal to my gf at all), Glass Road (I did not like this game at at all).
 
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Have you considered Bruges?
 
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I've never played Brew Crafters but I can assure you that VoMP is a great game that gets better with every play for me.
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bhider wrote:
Have you considered Bruges?


I think that it is a too tactical game with luck involved to it. Also the english version is OOP (at least I cannot find it)
 
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bhider wrote:
Have you considered Bruges?

If Viticulture is too random, adding dice to card draws like in Bruges will feel even more random.

+1 to Voyages here. Especially with the promo expansion characters (but the promo bonus chits you can skip if you don't like too much randomness)
 
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Marco Polo is stellar. The characters are so unique. And playing each one and trying to take advantage of their bonuses is almost a game within itself. And I also recommend the bonus characters you can buy at the geek store.
 
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We like many of the games you like - for example FoA and The Gallerist are top 5 games for us. I own Brewcrafters (a required posession for Portland OR eurogamers) and have played VoMP.

Brew Crafters reminds me of a fiddly variant of Agricola. Some people love it, while others (myself included) find it not worth the effort. I think we played it twice shortly after I bought it a few years ago, and it hasn't been played since. It's a shame the designers didn't include a solo variant - I'd probably play it by myself occasionally if so. I suggest you play a game before deciding to buy.

VoMP is fun and well designed, but I wouldn't bother to own it. You might like it more if dice placement and asymmetric players are exciting to you. The dice placement I prefer to this are Roll for the Galaxy and Steampunk Rally.



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I can't speak to Brew Crafters, however Voyages is an amazing game. Unlimited reply value. I to love Terra Mystica and I think Voyages is a good mix with being different enough to really grab you. You might want to look at Anachrony if you want something different.
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I own both and I think they are both worth owning. If I had to pick one it would be Marco Polo. It feels a bit more polished than Brewcrafters and I enjoy the dice placement aspect. But you can't go wrong with either game.
 
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S0laris wrote:
I am looking for my next medium/heavy euro and I cannot decide between these two.


Setup and breakdown for Brewcrafters is a greater challenge. I've found Marco Polo to be more fun.
 
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From the feedback I get, I think that Marco Polo has the edge , so probably I am concluding on it. Thank you guys!
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