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MGK, I'm curious: what criteria do you use to conclude that the NRA are fascists? Would you care to expound this notion. Thanks.
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isaacc wrote:
MGK, I'm curious: what criteria do you use to conclude that the NRA are fascists? Would you care to expound this notion. Thanks.

That video he posted is very clearly fascist in nature so I'm a bit confused as to why you are asking the question.
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isaacc wrote:
MGK, I'm curious: what criteria do you use to conclude that the NRA are fascists? Would you care to expound this notion. Thanks.

That video he posted is very clearly fascist in nature so I'm a bit confused as to why you are asking the question.


Indeed - I felt for a moment that I was watching The Man In The High Castle again...
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isaacc wrote:

MGK, I'm curious: what criteria do you use to conclude that the NRA are fascists? Would you care to expound this notion. Thanks.
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it's obviously nationalistic in nature - regardless of the fact that it's an American declaiming other Americans, the number of accusatory "theys" should be your big tipoff

it exhorts the audience to exercise violence and justifies the use of violence by authorities, in both cases stating plainly that violence is necessary

that's what fascism is at its core: authoritarian nationalism combined with the forcible/violent suppression of opposition, usually with a side order of othering in the bargain; this is really fascism 101 here, and very little in that speech would have been out of place in a speech written by Goebbels
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I say, what's with the lack of capital letters at the beginning of sentences these days? Did I miss a thread where you decided this would be a new thing?


i decided RSP wasn't worth the bother of such formality some time ago and I am as a general rule proved correct
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the number of accusatory "theys" should be your big tipoff


"The clenched fist of truth" is another.
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The "Frank Miller's Batman" strain of neo-fascist imagery.
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Yup - had fascist written all over it.
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That video was all but begging Americans to get their guns ready for the coming revolution !

Sadly, many people probably already are.
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I'll admit that I have probably lived outside the United States for more years, relative to my age, than most Americans.

However, I have spent many decades of my life in the United States, before & during the Vietnam War and the riots of the 60's; in the 80's; parts of the 90's; the 00's & the teens. And that montage of pictures shown in this video looks like some science fictiony - distopian -lost-in-chaos sort of place, not the America in which I have been living.

So where is this place that's so disfunctional that it needs its righteous citizens to arm themselves to clean it up?

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So where is this place that's so disfunctional that it needs its righteous citizens to arm themselves to clean it up?


Mostly in the minds of FOX News addicts and the the head of the NRA leaders !
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mightygodking wrote:


The video may have fascist written all over it, but to actually call the NRA fascists is beyond stupid (not calling you stupid, I'm just saying the idea is).
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I'll admit that I have probably lived outside the United States for more years, relative to my age, than most Americans.

However, I have spent many decades of my life in the United States, before & during the Vietnam War and the riots of the 60's; in the 80's; parts of the 90's; the 00's & the teens. And that montage of pictures shown in this video looks like some science fictiony - distopian -lost-in-chaos sort of place, not the America in which I have been living.

So where is this place that's so disfunctional that it needs its righteous citizens to arm themselves to clean it up?



If I had to take a guess I would guess places like Detroit and maybe some rough border towns? Not that I agree with the video at all though..
 
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I just wish rightwing partisans would get their narratives straight. I mean, are "the liberals" just a bunch of basement-dwelling pantywaist snowflake pussy-boys insistent on taking offense at every turn & ultimately retreating to videogames and safe-spaces? Or are "the liberals" a powerful & dangerous conglomeration of deep-state operatives working in tandem with "the mainstream media" to incite violence in order to de-legitimize a duly-elected sacrosanct representative of the people?

Powerless pussy-boys, or all-powerful domination machine?
Pick one.
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To most of them the response to your question would be.
"Yes they are."
 
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fightcitymayor wrote:
I just wish rightwing partisans would get their narratives straight. I mean, are "the liberals" just a bunch of basement-dwelling pantywaist snowflake pussy-boys insistent on taking offense at every turn & ultimately retreating to videogames and safe-spaces? Or are "the liberals" a powerful & dangerous conglomeration of deep-state operatives working in tandem with "the mainstream media" to incite violence in order to de-legitimize a duly-elected sacrosanct representative of the people?

Powerless pussy-boys, or all-powerful domination machine?
Pick one.


Couldn't it be both.

Like, when I would listen to Hannity some 10 years ago (see Tripp Postulate) it seemed that he imagined that the powerful oligarchs pretended to liberalism by paying lip service to the pantywaist concerns of the people, all the while enacting policies to expand their own power.



Tripp Postulate - Rightwing media is consumed largely by pantywaist liberals for the lulz, and as such it is mostly theater.
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fightcitymayor wrote:
I just wish rightwing partisans would get their narratives straight. I mean, are "the liberals" just a bunch of basement-dwelling pantywaist snowflake pussy-boys insistent on taking offense at every turn & ultimately retreating to videogames and safe-spaces? Or are "the liberals" a powerful & dangerous conglomeration of deep-state operatives working in tandem with "the mainstream media" to incite violence in order to de-legitimize a duly-elected sacrosanct representative of the people?

Powerless pussy-boys, or all-powerful domination machine?
Pick one.


They're both. That's what makes them so dangerous. goo
 
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The video may have fascist written all over it, but to actually call the NRA fascists is beyond stupid (not calling you stupid, I'm just saying the idea is).


1.) "okay sure this official video the NRA put out sure SOUNDS fascist but really they aren't" is a great argument you have there

2.) the NRA are, and always have been, a tool of protecting white supremacy by doing their best to maintain a culture where white people are allowed to own and operate guns with as little consequence as possible while quietly "failing" to provide that same level of insouciance to black people; their resistance to the concept of governance and anti-government rhetoric only really began when it began trying to ensure equality for black people; they opposed open carry when it was the Black Panthers open carrying, and it's not a coincidence that they have failed to put out any statement in the wake of the death of Philando Castile
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"So where is this place that's so disfunctional that it needs its righteous citizens to arm themselves to clean it up?".

Washington DC. That swamp isn't draining itself you know.
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They're both. That's what makes them so dangerous. goo
So that makes them... pantywaist pussy-domination machines?
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mightygodking wrote:
KrazyIrish89 wrote:
The video may have fascist written all over it, but to actually call the NRA fascists is beyond stupid (not calling you stupid, I'm just saying the idea is).


1.) "okay sure this official video the NRA put out sure SOUNDS fascist but really they aren't" is a great argument you have there

2.) the NRA are, and always have been, a tool of protecting white supremacy by doing their best to maintain a culture where white people are allowed to own and operate guns with as little consequence as possible while quietly "failing" to provide that same level of insouciance to black people; their resistance to the concept of governance and anti-government rhetoric only really began when it began trying to ensure equality for black people; they opposed open carry when it was the Black Panthers open carrying, and it's not a coincidence that they have failed to put out any statement in the wake of the death of Philando Castile


Or, you know, they might have a long history of being pro-law enforcement, explaining why they have failed to take a strong stance here.
 
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