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Themetic or strategy game?
 
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Both. Theme is clear, but choice really matters in this game.
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This game is super strategic, I would say more than the theme even.
And the theme is completely immersive.

I saw the title and my first reaction was "are you kidding"

So yes be ready for a lot of strategy.
Highly recommended
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I agree with both statements.
If you just take 30 seconds at the start to let a Star Wars OST play in the background, you get 1000% thematic. The missions are based on specific events from the movies, and allow you to replay them (sometimes with a bit of variety, like getting Chewy frozen into carbonite, for a change). Some cards are not as thematically proper as they should (ex: "Bobba Fett? Where?" is used for a Bobba Fett special action, instead of one from Han Solo), but this is very marginal. A Death Star blowing up Tatooine really brings back bad memories - err, good memories, I guess.

As for strategy, yes, this is a very intense strategy game. You produce & move units, you have them fight - only there are fewer moves and fights compared to a traditional strategy game, because there is a whole, deep, interesting parallel layer of strategy around missions: which ones will you try and accomplish this turn, among the many you have, also at the cost of not getting a chance of blocking your opponent from accomplishing something (something you don't know, at the time you make this choice). there's a little bluff to place your leaders in a sub-optimized way, just to squeeze in that little thing you wanted to accomplish.
The only "less strategic" part in my opinion is the amount of dice rolling there is (to confirm whether a mission is a success, as well as to fight) - although the fact that 4 out of 6 of the D6 faces amount to success mitigates it somewhat. There also is the randomness of tactics card, that can ruin a plan. But your average will be respected overall. Even if you are dice-jinxed like I am.
It's a very long game (I account for 4h in a single game, all 3 other having been in the 5.5-to-6 hour range) but I enjoy every bit of it.
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As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

It's more a wargame than any other category.
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scifiantihero wrote:
It's more a wargame than any other category.

Now there's a can of worms. whistle
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scifiantihero wrote:
As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

I can only speak for me, but I've never accepted that definition. Euro games are not the only "strategy" games out there, and while BGG is a useful resource, I wouldn't consider the hive mentality here to be the governing body of how games are defined.
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sigmazero13 wrote:

I can only speak for me, but I've never accepted that definition. Euro games are not the only "strategy" games out there, and while BGG is a useful resource, I wouldn't consider the hive mentality here to be the governing body of how games are defined.


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sigmazero13 wrote:
scifiantihero wrote:
As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

I can only speak for me, but I've never accepted that definition. Euro games are not the only "strategy" games out there, and while BGG is a useful resource, I wouldn't consider the hive mentality here to be the governing body of how games are defined.


I'm just saying, when bgg redesigned stuff into subdomains, that's what they meant.

And it's pretty clear it's what the poster is asking about.

(Confused about really. 'Cause I agree with you. It's poor word choice on BGGs part.)
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This game would rate (in my opinion):

Theme: very high
Strategy: very high
War: high
Euro: low
Ameritrash : a bit high but only because of the plastics

And so on, it can be many things at once and Some things better then other.
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scifiantihero wrote:
As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

It's more a wargame than any other category.


That's funny because Euro games (tend to) have very little player interaction. Meaning they are more puzzle games than strategy games. Strategy games involve extreme player interaction.
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Also this game has some euro elements.

You are essentially worker placing with your leaders
I would say more euro than war game (in strategy not theme)
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xiaomingdaxia wrote:
Themetic or strategy game?


It is both. The Theme is there for certain and quite heavily embedded into the game. The Strategy comes from the choises that you can make; there are LOTS of choises to be made in this game and the players have a huge influence on the outcome. Naturally, there are plenty of random elements in the game (dice, cards of several types) so you need to adjust your strategy accordingly. Risk mitigation is a nesseary skill in this game.
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scifiantihero wrote:
As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

It's more a wargame than any other category.


No, no it isn't. It's Scotland Yard with theme and a bucket of dice...
 
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Windopaene wrote:
scifiantihero wrote:
As far as bgg goess, strategy means euro. So no, not really.

It's more a wargame than any other category.


No, no it isn't. It's Scotland Yard with theme and a bucket of dice...

I couldn't disagree with this more. There is a slight similarity to Scotland Yard, but only with the 'find a hidden thing'. But how you accomplish that is nothing the same.

Might as well compare it to Dungeon Lords because you assign hidden orders. Or chess because you take turns doing stuff. Or Twilight Imperium/Runewars because of the activation mechanism.
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i would still say its more euro then war game

either way its full of strategy and the theme is fused in perfectly
 
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