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Ralph Tricoche
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What is the difference between a Eurogame (I think it called) and (I suppose) a western game?
I've heard the terminology but have zero idea what it means.

Thanks for the help.
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Eurogames usually have no player elimination and try to minimize luck elements. They often are more abstract, with the theme kind of painted over:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurogame

American-style or "Ameritrash" games often are very thematic and rely on luck elements, and player elimination is possible.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-style_board_game
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They are just words and the lines are blurring.
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Ralph Tricoche
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Thank you both.
 
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sixstrings4one wrote:
They are just words and the lines are blurring.


At this point, the lines really are blurring more and more as designers combine elements of theme and mechanics. Personally, I love both thematic and mechanical games, but the best games are the ones that marry the two - theme and mechanics.
 
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Eurogames (compared to "American themed games") tend to be less random, less chaotic and use game mechanisms that are often deterministic.

Most eurogame themes have a tenuous or often, non-existent tie-in with game mechanisms, but not always. Themes often seen in eurogames tend to be relatively "peaceful" with less direct conflict between players. Farming, trading, exploration, transportation, logistics, and other economic themes are common.

American themed games more often tend to use game mechanisms that are less deterministic, that inject randomness, chaos and unpredictability into the game design.

Whereas eurogames tend to focus on the clever and efficient manipulation of game mechanics (and sometimes the game mechanics ARE the game), the best American styled themed games in my opinion, are better at providing a "narrative" derived from the game setting while still rewarding skillful play.

The two categories have blended together, with many "hybrid" game designs that have both strong theming while using game mechanics often associated with eurogames.

From your own collection:

Hybrid games would include in my opinion: Blood Rage, Mage Knight Board Game, Pandemic and Small World.

American themed games: Betrayal at House on the Hill, Descent: Journeys in the Dark (Second Edition), Dead of Winter: A Crossroads Game and Fury of Dracula (third/fourth edition).

Eurogames: 7 Wonders, Splendor.
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sixstrings4one wrote:
They are just words and the lines are blurring.


Agree 100%
People tend to split a lot of hairs on this site that don't really need to be split.
 
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I usually think it rude to tell people to "do a search." But in this case... if you do a search, you'll find hundreds and hundreds of posts on the subject. And since there is no singular answer many of those posts give an interesting and slightly different perspective.
 
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Ralph Tricoche
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Thanks again all.
I did do a search but I wanted to get it from (what I think) is a good source.
 
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Here's a good read:

https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/27367/schools-design-and-...
 
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Great post. I'll be reading this tonight. Thank you.
 
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