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Because this is stupid, even for the Donald

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President Trump warned special counsel Robert Mueller from investigating his family’s finances beyond the scope of the probe into ties between his administration and Russia in an interview with The New York Times on Wednesday.

“I think that’s a violation. Look, this is about Russia,” Trump told The Times.

Trump during the interview said he wasn’t ruling out firing Mueller as special counsel on the Russia probe.

He did not say that he would order the Justice Department to fire Mueller or under what circumstances he would fire him, but he indicated Mueller investigating his family's finances would cross a line.


http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/342845-trump-warn...

As the old saying goes "Follow the Money". We seem to have confirmation why Orange Lucifer never released his tax forms. We now also seem to have an Imperial Family where the First Family formally stood. But I am sure the GOP will be able to work up a statement or two of concern about the matter
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Yeah no, that's totally out of line - I mean, it's not like his finances might include unsavory ties to Russia which may or may not inform Trump's warm embrace of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

Ridiculous.
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toku42 wrote:
Yeah no, that's totally out of line - I mean, it's not like his finances might include unsavory ties to Russia which may or may not inform Trump's warm embrace of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

Ridiculous.


And what would an interview with The Donald without the usual not-so-veiled threats

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In the interview, Trump also appeared to threaten Mueller, suggesting he had damaging information on the former FBI director.

Trump said Mueller's selection for the job was a conflict of interest because Trump had interviewed him to serve as the replacement FBI director.

"There were many other conflicts that I haven't said, but I will at some point," Trump said.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-t...
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toku42 wrote:
Yeah no, that's totally out of line - I mean, it's not like his finances might include unsavory ties to Russia which may or may not inform Trump's warm embrace of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

Ridiculous.


And what would an interview with The Donald without the usual not-so-veiled threats

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In the interview, Trump also appeared to threaten Mueller, suggesting he had damaging information on the former FBI director.

Trump said Mueller's selection for the job was a conflict of interest because Trump had interviewed him to serve as the replacement FBI director.

"There were many other conflicts that I haven't said, but I will at some point," Trump said.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-t...


Mueller better hope Trump doesn't have "tapes"!
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It has always seemed extremely likely that Trump and his family -- a cult of winning-is-everything and rules-are-for-losers who happen to be heavily involved in New York and international real estate -- would be involved in Russian money laundering. It would be satisfying indeed if what brought Trump down wasn't trying to fix the actual election but that by covering up the election stuff he led to an investigation of past criminal dealings.
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toku42 wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
toku42 wrote:
Yeah no, that's totally out of line - I mean, it's not like his finances might include unsavory ties to Russia which may or may not inform Trump's warm embrace of Russian dictator Vladimir Putin.

Ridiculous.


And what would an interview with The Donald without the usual not-so-veiled threats

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In the interview, Trump also appeared to threaten Mueller, suggesting he had damaging information on the former FBI director.

Trump said Mueller's selection for the job was a conflict of interest because Trump had interviewed him to serve as the replacement FBI director.

"There were many other conflicts that I haven't said, but I will at some point," Trump said.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-t...


Mueller better hope Trump doesn't have "tapes"!


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Trump has been famously testy about his finances for years.

We may finally find out why.
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https://youtu.be/pdFl__NlOpA

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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/democrats-pressure-deutsche-b...

Yes, they are following the money now, and that is wise. Trump may make good on his threat in the end, but I think he would incur the wrath of even some Republicans if he were to fire Mueller, effectively making him a lame duck President, the day he does it (although some may argue that is already the case )

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/security/news/2017/0...

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/trump-financial-...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/15/donald-...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/19/donald-trump...


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-rea...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/03/28/trump-b...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-06-21/trump-rus...
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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/democrats-pressure-deutsche-b...

Yes, they are following the money now, and that is wise. Trump may make good on his threat in the end, but I think he would incur the wrath of even some Republicans if he were to fire Mueller, effectively making him a lame duck President, the day he does it (although some may argue that is already the case )



Call me jaded and cynical, but I'm pretty sure that el presidente absolutely will fire Mueller once he has half a reason to - we see him laying the groundwork for it every time he talks about Mueller, as above.

Shoot, since Rosenstein is the one that would have to fire him, Trump is even doing the party planning for "Saturday Night Massacre 2017" by sizing up Rosenstein's neck for the noose.

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Trump said Rosenstein was playing both sides in Trump’s decision to fire former FBI Director James Comey by recommending the firing but then appointing Mueller as special counsel.

“Well, that’s a conflict of interest,” Trump said. “Do you know how many conflicts of interests there are?”


And in response, the craven, spineless GOP will stick to form and frown mildly, express "concern", and then get back to doing the Lord's work of slashing taxes on the rich and gutting regulations, while the GOP base will eat up every lie that comes out of Trump's mouth and be glad that he fired that malicious Obama Deep State actor who was just out to get Trump over this Russia fake news.

I can not see firing Mueller going any differently than every other terrible thing Trump has done to date.
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For giggles, here's the Bigly Presidentially-Okayed YUUUGGGEEE REALNEWS site:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/20/trump-sets-red-li...

If Mistah Trump keeps firing federal workers he doesn't like, pretty soon DC is gonna be a ghost town.
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I hope that the investigation can continue until complete, and then any wrongdoing is prosecuted by the house and senate.

Fat chance but that's politics.
 
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I hope that the investigation can continue until complete, and then any wrongdoing is prosecuted by the house and senate.

Fat chance but that's politics.


Well in at least one famous case, it worked out, and improved US politics for almost a decade.

So I'm hopeful ><
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We now have a more definitive explanation for The Donald's actions (as well as a credible reason for another firing-see bold)

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Special counsel Robert Mueller has expanded his investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election and whether the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow to include an examination of President Donald Trump's business dealings, Bloomberg reported Thursday.

"FBI investigators and others are looking at Russian purchases of apartments in Trump buildings, Trump's involvement in a controversial SoHo development with Russian associates, the 2013 Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and Trump's sale of a Florida mansion to a Russian oligarch in 2008," Bloomberg said, citing a person familiar with the matter.

Trump told The New York Times on Wednesday that Mueller would cross a line if he began digging into his finances. But in early June, Mueller began hiring lawyers with extensive experience in dealing with fraud, racketeering, and other financial crimes to help him investigate whether Trump or his associates worked with Russia to undermine Hillary Clinton during the election.

The follow-the-money approach began with a money-laundering case initiated last year by Preet Bharara, at the time a US attorney, according to Bloomberg.

Mueller — who was appointed in May to lead the FBI's probe after Trump fired FBI Director James Comey — is also homing in on money laundering and the business dealings of Trump's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, and his former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, Bloomberg said.


http://www.businessinsider.com/mueller-russia-investigation-...

This is really going to heat up now. With The Donald's comments to the New York Times its not going be surprising if there is a wholesale firing at the DOJ to bring them into line.

But I am sure the GOP will not their concern over the entire natter

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toku42 wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/democrats-pressure-deutsche-b...

Yes, they are following the money now, and that is wise. Trump may make good on his threat in the end, but I think he would incur the wrath of even some Republicans if he were to fire Mueller, effectively making him a lame duck President, the day he does it (although some may argue that is already the case )



Call me jaded and cynical, but I'm pretty sure that el presidente absolutely will fire Mueller once he has half a reason to - we see him laying the groundwork for it every time he talks about Mueller, as above.

Shoot, since Rosenstein is the one that would have to fire him, Trump is even doing the party planning for "Saturday Night Massacre 2017" by sizing up Rosenstein's neck for the noose.

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Trump said Rosenstein was playing both sides in Trump’s decision to fire former FBI Director James Comey by recommending the firing but then appointing Mueller as special counsel.

“Well, that’s a conflict of interest,” Trump said. “Do you know how many conflicts of interests there are?”


And in response, the craven, spineless GOP will stick to form and frown mildly, express "concern", and then get back to doing the Lord's work of slashing taxes on the rich and gutting regulations, while the GOP base will eat up every lie that comes out of Trump's mouth and be glad that he fired that malicious Obama Deep State actor who was just out to get Trump over this Russia fake news.

I can not see firing Mueller going any differently than every other terrible thing Trump has done to date.


Unfortunately, this is exactly what I think will happen. There have been too many things Trump has said and done that I think "welp, he's done now"...and he just goes on.

Basically, we will likely end up with Watergate 2.0 in substance, but the final result may just be "status quo". Trump continues on, his base loves him, nobody else in govt stands up to be counted.
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edgarthewoebringer wrote:
toku42 wrote:
abadolato01 wrote:
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/22/democrats-pressure-deutsche-b...

Yes, they are following the money now, and that is wise. Trump may make good on his threat in the end, but I think he would incur the wrath of even some Republicans if he were to fire Mueller, effectively making him a lame duck President, the day he does it (although some may argue that is already the case )



Call me jaded and cynical, but I'm pretty sure that el presidente absolutely will fire Mueller once he has half a reason to - we see him laying the groundwork for it every time he talks about Mueller, as above.

Shoot, since Rosenstein is the one that would have to fire him, Trump is even doing the party planning for "Saturday Night Massacre 2017" by sizing up Rosenstein's neck for the noose.

Quote:
Trump said Rosenstein was playing both sides in Trump’s decision to fire former FBI Director James Comey by recommending the firing but then appointing Mueller as special counsel.

“Well, that’s a conflict of interest,” Trump said. “Do you know how many conflicts of interests there are?”


And in response, the craven, spineless GOP will stick to form and frown mildly, express "concern", and then get back to doing the Lord's work of slashing taxes on the rich and gutting regulations, while the GOP base will eat up every lie that comes out of Trump's mouth and be glad that he fired that malicious Obama Deep State actor who was just out to get Trump over this Russia fake news.

I can not see firing Mueller going any differently than every other terrible thing Trump has done to date.


Unfortunately, this is exactly what I think will happen. There have been too many things Trump has said and done that I think "welp, he's done now"...and he just goes on.

Basically, we will likely end up with Watergate 2.0 in substance, but the final result may just be "status quo". Trump continues on, his base loves him, nobody else in govt stands up to be counted.


It'll be fun to watch all the Republicans who didn't mind a special prosecutor looking into a real estate deal morphing into a blowjob investigation defend Trump because a Russia investigation shouldn't look into real estate deals
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-mueller-russia_us_...

Uh-oh, the Orange One is gonna be mad!
 
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I'd be willing to bet that next week's National Enquirer front page will be something about Mueller, probably that he's an Obama mole
 
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Trump: Mueller can look at the Russia thing, but don't look into my finances!

Mueller: Hold my beer.
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