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Hi,

I've just watched Beneath Hill 60 and I'm looking for more historically accurate WW1 movies.
I've watched Lawrence of Arabia alreadh, though I'm not sure how accurate that one is.

It doesnt need to be movies where fighting occurs, i enjoyed King's speech very much (albeit ww2)

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Don't know about the accuracy, but Paths of Glory with Kirk Douglas is great.
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The Lost Battalion is pretty good. Just ignore the pithy antiwar scene at the end and you'll be okay.

Lawrence of Arabia is mostly accurate, though a little overwrought. It is based on the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, which is entirely from T.E. Lawrence's point of view.

The remake of All Quiet on the Western Front was good. Technically not historical as any given event is concerned, but still a good soldier's view.
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Peter Weir's 1981 film "Gallipoli" starring a very young Mel Gibson is pretty good, being filmed before Mr Gibson became an utter knob (at least as far as I know).

It does modify events for dramatic purposes and contain a number of significant historical inaccuracies, but no worse than most war films and the "feel" is spot on. Gibson's character was apparently based upon Pte. Wilfred Harper of the 10th Light Horse during an action at the Nek.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/
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Thanks for the recommendations.
Any idea why there's so few ww1 movies compared to ww2?
 
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It wasn't perceived as "glorious" by the survivors, as everybody pretty much lost. And whilst the Americans were late for both, they weren't quite so late for the replay.

Less American involvement = less commercial films = fewer films made.
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Joyeux Noël is about the unauthorized 1914 Christmas truce.

Fiction, but realistic enough.
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woffle wrote:
Any idea why there's so few ww1 movies compared to ww2?

Undoubtedly there were plenty made back then, they just aren't seen any more. Remember, talkies didn't come along until over ten years after the war ended, and color took another ten years or so to first appear. Not many people today want to watch silent black and white movies.

Not many are made today because the war was a long time ago, and modern movie viewers aren't much interested in ancient history. How many Civil War movies are made these days?
 
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And whilst the Americans were late for both, they weren't quite so late for the replay.

We were not late at all. We had absolutely no obligation whatsoever to enter either war any sooner than we did.
 
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I was joking, hence the wink. whistle

I think you did have the obligation to enter WW2 when you did to be honest, given that both Japan and Germany actually declared war on you!
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With varying degrees of fiction and dramatization, but shows the experience of it:

Doctor Zhivago for Eastern Front/Bolsheviks
Gallipoli for the Australian experience
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Another vote for Weir's Gallipoli.
The White Ribbon (2009) was good, and would count as a WWI movie in the same way you might count The Rules of the Game as a WWII movie.
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Dawn Patrol with Erroyl Flynn and Basil Rathbone. Not based on any specific events, but a fine depiction of the stress of aerial combat. Some other air warfare movies worth watching are The Blue Max, The Red Baron, and Flyboys. Mostly worth it for the aerial scenes, rather than historical accuracy.
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notquitekarpov wrote:
I was joking, hence the wink. whistle

I wasn't sure exactly what you were winking at. At any rate, At any rate, I've heard the "late" comment made in earnest, and it angers me, so I responded.

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I think you did have the obligation to enter WW2 when you did to be honest, given that both Japan and Germany actually declared war on you!
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Well, we could have surrendered immediately.
 
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Hell's Angels (1930, produced and directed by Howard Hughes and starring Jean Harlow) has two fantastic long flying sequences: an extended dogfight and bombing mission, and a Zeppelin raid. It had the highest production cost of any movie to that time. It featured 137 pilots, many of whom had actually flown in WWI, 3 of whom were killed during production along with one flying mechanic. The air combat scenes are not to be missed (but you'll probably want to skip the melodrama of the rest of it, a clunky early talkie.)
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Another vote for Gallipoli. The climatic sequence of events comes word for word from the Australian Official History (apart from the individual characters). I remember watching it once with the book open on my lap.

By the way, my upcoming game on Gallipoli is set at the landing at the beginning of the campaign, when the armies were maneuvering and all things were possible. The film shows the "worst" of the trench warfare.

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geoffreyphipps wrote:
Another vote for Gallipoli. The climatic sequence of events comes word for word from the Australian Official History (apart from the individual characters). I remember watching it once with the book open on my lap.

By the way, my upcoming game on Gallipoli is set at the landing at the beginning of the campaign, when the armies were maneuvering and all things were possible. The film shows the "worst" of the trench warfare.

Cheers
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I once spent a few days in Gallipoli, at a hostel called the Gallipoli Hostel, which ran the "Gallipoli" movie non-stop (literally). From there I toured the Gallipoli battlefield.

When too much Gallipoli is never enough

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tms2 wrote:
notquitekarpov wrote:
And whilst the Americans were late for both, they weren't quite so late for the replay.

We were not late at all. We had absolutely no obligation whatsoever to enter either war any sooner than we did.


Michael, these issues are much debated for both wars -- political, legal, military, economic, and moral issues abound.
 
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TCLCATSPAW8MCHS wrote:
tms2 wrote:
notquitekarpov wrote:
And whilst the Americans were late for both, they weren't quite so late for the replay.

We were not late at all. We had absolutely no obligation whatsoever to enter either war any sooner than we did.

Michael, these issues are much debated for both wars -- political, legal, military, economic, and moral issues abound.

That doesn't mean that there is any merit to the claim that the US was "late". Anybody can start a debate about anything. There is also debate about whether the Earth is flat.
 
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tms2 wrote:
TCLCATSPAW8MCHS wrote:
tms2 wrote:
notquitekarpov wrote:
And whilst the Americans were late for both, they weren't quite so late for the replay.

We were not late at all. We had absolutely no obligation whatsoever to enter either war any sooner than we did.

Michael, these issues are much debated for both wars -- political, legal, military, economic, and moral issues abound.

That doesn't mean that there is any merit to the claim that the US was "late". Anybody can start a debate about anything. There is also debate about whether the Earth is flat.


Michael, just saying there is a whole body of scholarly literature out there (for decades) that discusses this issue in depth for anyone who wants to deepen their understanding of what is involved.
 
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It also ties in with - and is intended to ironically combat- the view in some American quarters that the USA came in to "save our arse" in both Wars, seemingly ignorant that in WW2 at least they had war declared upon them by all three major Axis powers. The same vocal minority also suggest somehow the Europeans should be eternally grateful to the USA for their liberation, which is nonsense.

The reality is, of course, that pretty every nation fights its wars with its own national interests firmly to the fore. Indeed to do anything else would be a disservice to those they ask to fight them. The USA fought in Europe purely as they saw it as essential to do so, and indeed voluntarily agreed a Europe first policy for the same reason.

Let's move on.


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...The Blue Max, The Red Baron, and Flyboys. Mostly worth it for the aerial scenes, rather than historical accuracy.

Plus, The Blue Max had Ursula Andress. devil
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In case no one has seen or heard of this yet, the BBC produced a three episode mini-series on the British experience in WWI called "Our World War". It was very well done and is based on participant's diaries.

The first episode is on Mons in 1914, the second on the Somme in 1916, and the third on Amiens (in a tank) in 1918.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p022twsy

Very well done and made in commemoration of the 100 year anniversary of the war.
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There is an upcoming British Great War movie to be released in the spring of 2018 called ‘Journey’s End’ that looks interesting.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey%27s_End_(2017_film)

Hopefully there will be a North American release for this film.
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