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Subject: Ten Thoughts on this years WBC rss

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Rich Shipley
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WBC should maintain it's focus on competitive games with individual winners that are at least somewhat thematic. There are a few games that don't perfectly fit that, but an abstract co-op card game with fuzzy rules might go a bit far.
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I think partnership/team games would be acceptable to most at the WBC, if the team/partnership wins all members work as team through entire tournament and each receive a plaque. (Granted there'd have to be fewer prize levels.) I just don't think it would work to award a single player winner was suggested above for Tichu. Or a Codenames tournament where it resolved to single winner. All for One and One for All!


I agree with this. If WBC can have team tournaments with weird nicknames and t-shirts, why not just force people to sign up as a tandem and that single team stays together for the entirety? Make it a 4 plaque event - 2 for the winners, 2 for the not-so-winners. If someone can't find a tag team partner before the event, they go online and recruit like the people who recruit roommates. If that doens't work, perhaps there is a registration format that allows for single players to find a partner on site.
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Imagine codenames, for example, where player A has 2 wins already in heats. Player B has only one win and this is their last chance. For whatever reason, Player A decides that they are already advancing, and they don't want player B to advance. Player A and player B are put on the same team. Player A can easily sabotage the game to ensure player B loses.


Yep. And this would probably happen at some point. I've seen weird stuff in multiplayer games at WBC or in online tournaments where somebody, say, only needs to finish 3rd out of 6 to advance, and it really changes the game to have a player only trying to finish 3rd and not trying to win.
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sigtaulefty wrote:
rri1 wrote:


I think partnership/team games would be acceptable to most at the WBC, if the team/partnership wins all members work as team through entire tournament and each receive a plaque. (Granted there'd have to be fewer prize levels.) I just don't think it would work to award a single player winner was suggested above for Tichu. Or a Codenames tournament where it resolved to single winner. All for One and One for All!


I agree with this. If WBC can have team tournaments with weird nicknames and t-shirts, why not just force people to sign up as a tandem and that single team stays together for the entirety? Make it a 4 plaque event - 2 for the winners, 2 for the not-so-winners. If someone can't find a tag team partner before the event, they go online and recruit like the people who recruit roommates. If that doens't work, perhaps there is a registration format that allows for single players to find a partner on site.


Actually this isn't really a major problem. As everyone signs up, direct all players who DO NOT have a partner, to come THIS table next to sign up table. If you have a planned partner, please wait at THAT table they show up. If you have a partner and you both are here, grab a team score card, sit next to each other at any other table in the room and have both fill out one team score card. If you find a partner while at singles tables, get a score card, both players fill it out and sit together.

Once every has signed in, GM will call for order and ask everyone if they are have a partner and they are sitting next to them. If not come up to the singles, table. Any singles left over at this point will be randomly assigned a partner. If there are an odd number of players, the GM will be the last player's partner. GM then collects the team score cards and uses them to randomly assign opposing teams.

This format cannot be run as heat event--you need ONE sign up period, Swiss, Single Elim or Swiss Elim. In Heats, if both partners don't show up a second heat? Disallow the now single player? That's problematic. What if you allow a different partner the second heat and both of his teams advance?

Granted an experienced partnership will have an ad hoc partnership in any partnership game. But that's the breaks!


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Seems like there is a lot of opposition to it being sanctioned by WBC. Is it being sanctioned even beneficial? That gets you a room and a spot on the schedule. Presumably open gaming table space is still widely available. Everyone has phones now, organizing an async tournament could even be a big win for the players. Let individual teams that get matched up against each other find some mutually fitting times, run the qualifiers over a few days.
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