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Gert van Bruggen
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Hi there good people i need advice.

I am able to buy KDM 1 for 450 euro's from someone i know.
But i would rather have the 1.5 only it is not clear what the exact retail price wil be and when it wil be available.
I live in the Netherlands and at the moment it is not sure who wil be the distributeur for the game in europe also wil there be enough retail copy's?
So i was thinking i buy version 1 and later buy the upgrade or maybe sell it and buy the Core 1.5

So 450 euro's would that be a reasonable price for a used KDM Game?

 
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I can't think of a single reason to buy used right now unless you really hate money.
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Given the likelihood that you'll have chance to buy a NEW, and UPDATED copy soon - no it does not sound worth it.
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boardgamesdotEXE wrote:
I can't think of a single reason to buy used right now unless you really hate money.

Terminal diagnosis, only one month to live?
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voltemands wrote:
Given the likelihood that you'll have chance to buy a NEW, and UPDATED copy soon - no it does not sound worth it.


Soon?

I'll be amazed if just the 1.5 update kits get delivered in 2017... given past performance of the production, shipping and backer delivery...

How bad does the OP want the game?

1.0 prices will likely drop when 1.5 is delivered to backers, by how much remains to be seen.
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Just wait, it is unlikely that you will get both 1.31 kdm and upgrade pack at anything that resembles msrp without a Kickstarter pledge.

Wait for 1.5 and bask in the full game glory.

The closer fulfillment gets, the less sense it has to discuss this.
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tumorous wrote:
boardgamesdotEXE wrote:
I can't think of a single reason to buy used right now unless you really hate money.

Terminal diagnosis, only one month to live?

I'd still wait for 1.5.
 
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Is $450 Euros equal to MSRP? Because I definitely wouldn't pay more than MSRP, considering that it lacks the 1.5 improvements.

Wait for 1.5 to become available.
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There's no reason for KDM1 to cost more than KDM1.5.

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Except the box. The box is different, and unique for both editions.
 
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Yes, but is that extra printed storage box really worth $150 retail?
 
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tumorous wrote:
boardgamesdotEXE wrote:
I can't think of a single reason to buy used right now unless you really hate money.

Terminal diagnosis, only one month to live?


Or compulsive buying disorder.
 
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Yes, but is that extra printed storage box really worth $150 retail?


That is funny, because I asked Poots if boxes were available for separate purchase.

Anyway, I'd gladly fork $30 for a good cardboard the same size of the game box (and to answer directly, no, not $150, but I'm no collector... Anyway, this being a niche game, it also means that collectibles are less appetible, so it was just nitpicking).
 
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I sincerely hope that the Gambler's Chest comes in a nice, printed box that matches the core game, rather than generic brown cardboard. Also the mega sets like Abyssal Woods and the Upgrade box. Nice, matching storage boxes would be fantastic.
 
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The update pack is, I think it reasonable that the GC will.
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Thx for all the replays

So what would then be a reasonable price for a used version 1 ?
I am still in discussion whith the owner and didn't buy anything yet.
 
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Anything over 300 eur is a bad bet, IMO. Anything above that and it's probably cheaper to buy 1.5 retail than buy 1.0 and the 1.5 pack later.

A lot of the value is going to depend on how well they built the miniatures. If you don't want to build it and they did a good job, it might even raise the value. But if they did a shitty job, it might be worthless.
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At this point I do't know if there is a price that fair for both of you... You will soon have to buy the upgrade pack (IF it is available separately, but I think likely otherwise inflated price on ebay) and that will be at minimum $50 based on the KS price. It is also used. And if he wanted 450euros I can't see him coming down to the probably $300 or less that would be worth it for you to buy now rather than waiting a month or two.
If you want to play it for a month then resell, be aware that there will be a lot of the 1.5 versions around so the value for yours will drop rapidly.
 
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FreakGIB wrote:
Thx for all the replays

So what would then be a reasonable price for a used version 1 ?
I am still in discussion whith the owner and didn't buy anything yet.


Still $400.
 
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FreakGIB wrote:
So what would then be a reasonable price for a used version 1 ?

I am still in discussion whith the owner and didn't buy anything yet.


You need to look at it as something that you need to buy an Upgrade Pack ($100) to match a 1.5 set at a Black Friday price ($350 total). Therefore, a non-upgraded 1.0 box is worth $250 at most. It is worth considerably less than the $400 MSRP. If you are truly desperate, then you might go as high as $300.

Again, I recommend that you just wait until 1.5 releases late this year.
 
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GrauGeist wrote:
... It is worth considerably less than the $400 MSRP. If you are truly desperate, then you might go as high as $300.


the open market disagrees - that said, i'd expect the market to flood once 1.5 releases

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eBay sales data is not relevant. Historical data from limited stock is not comparable when we're talking about a flood of new stock.
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FreakGIB wrote:
Hi there good people i need advice.

So 450 euro's would that be a reasonable price for a used KDM Game?



450 Euro equals 530 US Dollar. Seems relevant, but what the fuck do I know, I've only sold 4 or 5,000 USD of KDM.

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GrauGeist wrote:
eBay sales data is not relevant. Historical data from limited stock is not comparable when we're talking about a flood of new stock.


If you want to know the price today, that is the price today. No other ways around, this is the fact.

When new stock comes, we will talk of pricing again, but at the moment is nonsense.

Anyway, 1.31 core game retains easily its $400 value today, and that was the question asked.

1.31 core is not a good investment if you plan to upgrade it because the upgrade packs will (likely) not be more than the original 10k units print run, but their distribution could not be so homogeneous to make one upgrade pack exactly to one 1.31 owner, if that was not pledged for.
 
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Also the slim possibility that 1.5 makes the game less enjoyable and thus 1.0 remains valuable. Prices for 1.0 are what they are now, they may go up or down once 1.5 releases but you cant expect someone to sell theirs cheaper in anticipation.
 
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