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This is the announcement thread for the no shipping math trade for visitors of the Internationale Spieltage SPIEL'17 (26.10.2017 - 29.10.2017) in Essen.

Do not post in this thread!

This thread will provide announcements, updates, reminders, and other important information regarding the Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade.

The idea is that only the organizer account posts in this thread to keep it limited to relevant information. If you don't want to keep up with the discussion thread, subscribe to this thread instead and it will provide you with all the important information (and not much more than that). Please do not post in this thread.

All information provided here will be mirrored in the Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade discussion thread to allow for questions and comments over there.


The trade list including all the rules can be found here:
Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade

There is a request list where you can add games that you would like to see offered in this trade:
Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade request list

Please use the discussion thread for all your trade related questions, suggestions, comments and chit-chat:
Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade discussion thread
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Last day to add/edit/delete items

I will most likely end the item submission tomorrow in the afternoon (CEST). Until then, I'll try to do more frequent resyncs of OLWLG.

I ask everyone to remove sold/unavailable items from the list NOW and to consider not selling or trading items elsewhere during the want list submission period. Keep in mind that more than 160 people spend time with your items by reading their descriptions, evaluating them, adding them to wishlists etc., so it's only fair to keep the number of time wasting "zombie items" down to a minimum.

Remember that deleting items is only allowed now during the item submission phase.

Please check your items for unanswered comments and questions.
This is how OLWLG will notify you of unanswered comments for your items:


Comments posted after the item submission deadline will not show up in OLWLG.


There are currently over 2600 items in the trade list and it's still growing steadily. Thank you all for participating and for helping out new users in the discussion thread!


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The trade list is locked now. You will be able to submit your want lists soon after the final resync of OLWLG.

Do not delete items from the trade list anymore!

My usual advice for creating good want lists: Assume that each of your own items will trade for your least favourite item on its respective want list. If that would still make you happy, then your want lists are fine. If not, delete those least favourite items from your want lists and start over with this tip.

Comments on trade list items are still enabled to ask and answer questions. But remember that these will not show up in OLWLG anymore. At this point all the important information should be included in your item descriptions. If you are not able to deliver an item as advertised in the item description, you have to withdraw that item from the trade (i.e. submit an empty want list for it).


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Reminder: The want lists for the Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade have to be submitted by midnight today (CEST/UTC+2).

If at this point your lists are missing or have been modified after your last submission you will find a reminder in your GeekMail inbox, too (don't let the subject of that GeekMail fool you if it says 2016 - that slipped through ).


A few more useful things to do and check:

+ Check the availability of the items on your want lists at SPIEL'17. Will you be able to collect them?

+ Check the language of the items on your want lists.

+ Use duplicate protection if you don't want to end up with multiple copies of the same game.

+ If you posted money offers, remove all other money offers from their respective want lists.

+ Check OLWLG for warnings and notifications regarding your items and want lists and check for highlighted lines in the table view. Investigate these issues.

+ Remember that you not only need to save ("Confirm") your lists in OLWLG but also submit them ("Submit Your Lists Here!" -> "Submit My Wants"). You will get a confirmation GeekMail from OLWLG. The same is true if you already submitted your lists but made changes afterwards: You will have to submit your new set of lists and you will get a new confirmation GeekMail.


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The preliminary results are up!

You should now find a set of new links in OLWLG, one of them being pending results summary. It will take you to the results.

If a link in OLWLG doesn't work as expected (table format view, arbitrage check etc.) try adding &pending=1 to the URL.

Important: Check your results for possible errors within the next 24 hours and geekmail me directly if there seems to be anything wrong.

Reminder: Mistakes you made by checking the wrong boxes while creating your want lists do not warrant a rerun of the trade and can not be corrected. By adding an item to one of your want lists you agreed to accept it in exchange for your respective item as stated in the rules.

Please do not ask me to upload the WANTS. I will do this once the results are confirmed.

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The REVISED preliminary results are up!

This is the 2nd version of the results.

All links are the same as before: pending results summary.

Please check the new results for possible errors within the next 24 hours and geekmail me directly if there seems to be anything wrong.

Make sure to reload your open browser tabs to see the revised results.

For the entire chain of reasoning, please check the discussion thread following this post
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/26996671#26996671
as well as my thoughts and comments, especially here:
https://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/26999897#26999897

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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24 hours have passed and there were no major issues or complaints*.

The results are confirmed. Happy trading!

*Unfortunately, a few mistakes always seem to remain in a trade with this many items in different languages and with different meeting conditions to keep track of. I'd love to correct every last mistake but one rerun is already more than I am comfortable with. If you're really unhappy with one or more of your results, maybe something can be worked out in the Essen SPIEL 2017 no shipping math trade discussion thread.

Remember that using the BGG Trade Manager is encouraged.

Have a great time at SPIEL'17 in Essen, maybe see you there and please take some photos and make some videos of the organized trading chaos ;)


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I have received confirmation from Friedhelm Merz Verlag that they are okay with last year's meeting place for the Math Trade, so now officially reconfirmed:

There will be a general math trade meeting each day at noon (12:00 CEST on Thursday, Friday, Saturday and 12:00 CET on Sunday) in front of hall 3 next to Entrance West - right hand of the entrance area when approaching the entrance from the outside:



Note that the area is roofed but still outside. Wear suitable clothes and protect your games from rain and moisture. Since it may get chilly in October in Germany, please be on time before your trade partners turn into icicles. There is a roofed veranda that runs alongside the building and provides enough space to move along in two directions with people standing on both sides. Don't be afraid to delve into this dungeon of trading.

Remember that you may agree on any type of user identification to make sure to find the right person. You may exchange phone numbers and send each other a confirmation text message in Essen or log in to your BGG account as proof of your identity. You may also exchange a password via GeekMail in advance or let your trade partners know what you will be wearing (apart from the obvious sign with your username ;)).

Finally, to make sure you don't get lost, Alain Baum (DukeOfEarl) has once again provided us with his awesome hall plans. Please head over to this thread:
Hall Plans for Essen Spiel 2017 - Detailed Maps


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The Essen SPIEL 2018 no shipping math trade is up!

The trade list including all the rules can be found here:
Essen SPIEL 2018 no shipping math trade

There is a request list where you can add games that you would like to see offered in this trade:
Essen SPIEL 2018 no shipping math trade request list

For questions, suggestions, comments and chit-chat head over to the discussion thread:
Essen SPIEL 2018 no shipping math trade discussion thread

If you don't want to keep up with the discussion thread, please subscribe to the announcement thread in order not to miss any important information:
Essen SPIEL 2018 no shipping math trade announcement thread
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