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Dear Gamers:

I am looking at which coin series to pick up. The question is which one is the best for two players?

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Colonial Twilight: The French-Algerian War, 1954-62 is strictly 2-player COIN...
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wifwendell wrote:


I'm certainly not going to argue that this is the best fit, though I will add that I think Fire in the Lake plays extremely well with two players (NVA/VC vs. US/ARVN), though it does feel like a different game than with 4 players. It would be harder to recommend A Distant Plain or Falling Sky: The Gallic Revolt Against Caesar.
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westwardhough wrote:

With experienced players, I think A Distant Plain is phenomenal. Split the factions Coaltion/Taliban vs Government/Warlords and it proves quite fun. Again the caveat is you really have to know what's going on in the game for this recommendation.
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Venser wrote:
westwardhough wrote:

With experienced players, I think A Distant Plain is phenomenal. Split the factions Coaltion/Taliban vs Government/Warlords and it proves quite fun. Again the caveat is you really have to know what's going on in the game for this recommendation.


Wait, Chris - you team up the factions that way? Coalition and Taliban are directly in competition for Support vs Opposition, and Government and Warlords are directly in competition for control vs non-control. That would be the *last* way I would team up the factions. I think Coalition & Warlords vs Govt & Taliban makes the most sense. I think that is also what Brian and Volko recommend.
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Not all the games is going to be two players. Maybe %60 will be two players and the rest will be three or four players. How are the coin series with three players?
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Combat311 wrote:
Not all the games is going to be two players. Maybe %60 will be two players and the rest will be three or four players. How are the coin series with three players?


Pretty strong, because the non-player faction is controlled by an "AI" flowchart. I'd probably pick up Cuba Libre or A Distant Plain for an introduction to the series.
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Tried Andean Abyss with 2 players; it fell kind of flat.

Colonial Twilight would be the best, dedicated, 2 player game. Fire in the Lake is awesome with two, especially if you use two bots rather than taking two factions each.
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I do not need introduction to the series. Which one as the best AI flowchart? I am use to AI flowchart with Labyrinth The War on Terror. Are the Flowchart the same?
 
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Combat311 wrote:
I do not need introduction to the series. Which one as the best AI flowchart? I am use to AI flowchart with Labyrinth The War on Terror. Are the Flowchart the same?


The AI is pretty different.

I, too, had played a lot of Labyrinth before tacking COIN. Andean Abyss, arguably the easiest of the series, was a huge step up in AI complexity.
 
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jackalope wrote:
Combat311 wrote:
I do not need introduction to the series. Which one as the best AI flowchart? I am use to AI flowchart with Labyrinth The War on Terror. Are the Flowchart the same?


The AI is pretty different.

I, too, had played a lot of Labyrinth before tacking COIN. Andean Abyss, arguably the easiest of the series, was a huge step up in AI complexity.


I find the COIN AI bots generally obtuse and often difficult to master. I still often play all factions in solitaire. The lack of hidden information throughout the series makes it fairly practical and satisfying.
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Colonial Twilight.....designed as a two player game, you can't go wrong.
 
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