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When should Sagrada reach European retailers?
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lavov wrote:
When should Sagrada reach European retailers?


Shouldn't be much longer now
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I was just informed that my pre-order won't be available in september due to only a low amount of copies being available after GenCon. Has anyone else heard this?

Guess I'll have to wait for another reprint.
 
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I feel for my gaming friends "across the pond" who haven't yet received a copy. But on the plus side, I'm really happy for Ben & Floodgate Games to have released a game that continues to rise in popularity. It's always great to see a smaller publisher have so much success, and in this case, it's well-deserved!
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Hammerken wrote:
I was just informed that my pre-order won't be available in september due to only a low amount of copies being available after GenCon. Has anyone else heard this?

Guess I'll have to wait for another reprint.


Sorry you're having trouble, demand definitely increased after we had already started the second print run.

We've started a third, hopeful it will be back in before the end of the year
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I feel for my gaming friends "across the pond" who haven't yet received a copy. But on the plus side, I'm really happy for Ben & Floodgate Games to have released a game that continues to rise in popularity. It's always great to see a smaller publisher have so much success, and in this case, it's well-deserved!


Thanks for the compliments, we're really excited that so many people are enjoying it (and so many more want to)!
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Ben, what about localized versions of Sagrada?
For instance, have you planned any German or French edition of the game?
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Floodgate wrote:
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When should Sagrada reach European retailers?


Shouldn't be much longer now


Any more specific information is possible? Just realized that the place I have placed the preorder changed the estimated delivery date from September to November.
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jacus666 wrote:
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When should Sagrada reach European retailers?


Shouldn't be much longer now


Any more specific information is possible? Just realized that the place I have placed the preorder changed the estimated delivery date from September to November.


They may not have received as many as they thought... but you'll have to check in with them.

These sell through distributors to retailers, so I don't have great visibility into which stores and how many are received
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leochab wrote:
Ben, what about localized versions of Sagrada?
For instance, have you planned any German or French edition of the game?


More to come on this
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Frankly the lack of product for the European market is a disgrace.
I'm rapidly losing interest and with only limited funding to buy games...I'm moving on. I will now spend elsewhere.
Very poor demand forecasting...sorry floodgate!
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Frankly the lack of product for the European market is a disgrace.
I'm rapidly losing interest and with only limited funding to buy games...I'm moving on. I will now spend elsewhere.
Very poor demand forecasting...sorry floodgate!
End of term report...

MUST DO BETTER!


This seems quite inappropriate. Floodgate is a much smaller publisher than say, Days of Wonder, Asmodee, and others. Based on their previous games, Sagrada is selling MUCH better than predicted. Is this a problem? Sure, but it's a good problem, and one that Ben / Floodgate continues to work through.

Generally speaking, lack of a product means "more on the way". That may not always be the case, but in the gaming world, there's usually another print run coming if something is popular and selling out.

A publisher cannot magically make more appear. Nor should they be expected to. But they can work through the problem, which fooodgate is continuing to do.
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Generally speaking, lack of a product means "more on the way". That may not always be the case, but in the gaming world, there's usually another print run coming if something is popular and selling out.

I think part of the frustration stems from the impression (right or wrong) that "more on the way" mainly goes to the US. I still see several stores I could buy it from for a reasonable price if I were located in the US.
Finding a copy in Europe - good luck with that.
If you unsuccessfully tried last time, then pre-ordered to make sure you got one this time around, and aren't getting anything this time either (despite pre-ordering)... well, I'm not surprised that people are getting frustrated.
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Floodgate Games, Any chance on releasing some print and play files until we could purchase in EU? It would give us a chance to try it now, not in 6 months.
 
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marble911 wrote:
WooHoo1 wrote:
Generally speaking, lack of a product means "more on the way". That may not always be the case, but in the gaming world, there's usually another print run coming if something is popular and selling out.

I think part of the frustration stems from the impression (right or wrong) that "more on the way" mainly goes to the US. I still see several stores I could buy it from for a reasonable price if I were located in the US.
Finding a copy in Europe - good luck with that.
If you unsuccessfully tried last time, then pre-ordered to make sure you got one this time around, and aren't getting anything this time either (despite pre-ordering)... well, I'm not surprised that people are getting frustrated.


We try to send out as evenly as we can, sorry if it seems like you're getting the short end on this.

We've also started a (much bigger) third printing that will land in our warehouses around December, out to you shortly after
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saranac wrote:
Floodgate Games, Any chance on releasing some print and play files until we could purchase in EU? It would give us a chance to try it now, not in 6 months.


Hey Aleksandar-

We're not planning a PNP for this one, sorry
 
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Kevfromle wrote:
MUST DO BETTER!


Don't we all!
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marble911 wrote:
I think part of the frustration stems from the impression (right or wrong) that "more on the way" mainly goes to the US. I still see several stores I could buy it from for a reasonable price if I were located in the US.


If it's any comfort at all, it's come in and out of stock twice online in the US in the past week, and shown up in Barnes and Noble B&M stores, but has yet to appear as even orderable from their distributors for my local FLGS's, and they're in the same city as Floodgate Games!
 
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I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^
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Tambal wrote:
I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^


Agreed. Floodgate's distributors aren't exactly distributing so much as dropping the whole batch in one place.

After all this time and empty promises, I'm beginning to wonder whether the wait will be worth it. cry
 
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FYI one store in Poland got some units - ive just got one for myself.
This topic made me feel like I would wait months for game - Im suprised as you may be.
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Toadflax234 wrote:
Tambal wrote:
I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^


Agreed. Floodgate's distributors aren't exactly distributing so much as dropping the whole batch in one place.

After all this time and empty promises, I'm beginning to wonder whether the wait will be worth it. cry


The distribution was pretty even from what I saw... Fortunately, the third printing is underway and scheduled to finish early!
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Floodgate wrote:
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Tambal wrote:
I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^


Agreed. Floodgate's distributors aren't exactly distributing so much as dropping the whole batch in one place.

After all this time and empty promises, I'm beginning to wonder whether the wait will be worth it. cry


The distribution was pretty even from what I saw... Fortunately, the third printing is underway and scheduled to finish early!


I've seen posts from people all over the UK - seems none got here!

Still, hopefully we'll get some in the third printing. Very glad to hear it's on its way.
 
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Is there any chance to get a copy in Essen at the SPIEL?
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Toadflax234 wrote:
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Toadflax234 wrote:
Tambal wrote:
I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^


Agreed. Floodgate's distributors aren't exactly distributing so much as dropping the whole batch in one place.

After all this time and empty promises, I'm beginning to wonder whether the wait will be worth it. cry


The distribution was pretty even from what I saw... Fortunately, the third printing is underway and scheduled to finish early!


I've seen posts from people all over the UK - seems none got here!

Still, hopefully we'll get some in the third printing. Very glad to hear it's on its way.
 
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Travellingmatti wrote:
Is there any chance to get a copy in Essen at the SPIEL?
Thanks for answering!

Toadflax234 wrote:
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Toadflax234 wrote:
Tambal wrote:
I've ordered this game 6 months ago (Germany) and still waiting for it.
This is not the way a fair distribution should work. ^^


Agreed. Floodgate's distributors aren't exactly distributing so much as dropping the whole batch in one place.

After all this time and empty promises, I'm beginning to wonder whether the wait will be worth it. cry


The distribution was pretty even from what I saw... Fortunately, the third printing is underway and scheduled to finish early!


I've seen posts from people all over the UK - seems none got here!

Still, hopefully we'll get some in the third printing. Very glad to hear it's on its way.


They said on their Twitter feed that they won't be there.
https://twitter.com/FloodgateGames/status/911617131279732737
 
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