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Oops, I fell for yet another one of these loser's bids for attention. I only snipped a part of it, but basically the warnings over Irma are a plot by the Deep State and other people that want you to think climate change is real. Also it's a plot by the bottled water companies, because see, tap water is always safe because Rush says so. And he's not a metereologist or anything but he says this is no biggie.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/09/05/my-analysis-of...

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Even last week when it first popped up and when the first forecast models appeared and then the Hurricane Center track forecast, it was always a-ten-day-out event from the first day they started forecasting it. So how in the world does panic get created? How in the world is it that there isn’t any bottled water? And why does that cause a panic? Has anybody ever heard of the tap? I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up. In many ways, it’s the same stuff you’re buying at the grocery store. You may not know that, but it is.

Tap water is entirely safe, and nobody can hoard it away from you. It’s in your house every day in whatever amounts that you want. But people have been conditioned to believe that tap water is dirty, is dangerous, and might cause them to get sick. So they avoid it.

You know, if I were the Big Oil guys I’d be so jealous of the Big Water guys. The Big Water guys don’t have to drill for it. The Big Water guys do not have to spend any research and development money. They don’t have to go through the environmentalist wackos. They just plug into some lake or some tap and fill up some water, put a label on it, put it in grocery store and sell it for more than gasoline costs, in many cases. That’s a side issue.

The reason that I am leery of forecasts this far out, folks, is because I see how the system works. Now, I don’t mean this to be a personal attack on anybody, but the one thing that’s undeniable throughout our culture is that everything has been politicized. And in that sense much of our public information system, including from the government, from the Drive-By Media, has been corrupted. It has been corrupted by the individual biases and whatever present bigotry of the people who hold these positions.

You can see it in the way the Deep State deals with Trump. You can see it with the way the intelligence community and the Washington establishment deal with Trump. So in the case of a hurricane, what happens? Well, there are many levels here. When a hurricane pops up — and we can’t forget Hurricane Harvey because Hurricane Harvey and the TV pictures that accompany that go a long way to helping further and create the panic.

Now, my theory — and it’s only a theory — is that because of the biases, because of the politicization of everything, because you have people in all of these government areas who believe man is causing climate change, and they’re hell-bent on proving it, they’re hell-bent on demonstrating it, they’re hell-bent on persuading people of it. So here comes a hurricane that’s 10 to 12 days out and here come the initial model runs, and if it’s close — sometimes it’s not close, sometimes the hurricane will turn to the north out in the mid-Atlantic and there’s no way you can fake that. But if, if they are going to approach a hit on the U.S., you will note that early tracks always have them impacting a major population center.

Unlike UFOs which only land in trailer parks, hurricanes are always forecast to hit major population centers. Because, after all, major population centers is where the major damage will take place and where we can demonstrate that these things are getting bigger and they’re getting more frequent and they’re getting worse. All because of climate change. I’ve got the audio sound bites to support. I can’t tell you the number of media people and elected officials all talking about this hurricane, Hurricane Irma, it’s no doubt due to climate change. And it never ends, it just never ends.

I’m constantly on guard against it. I’ve lived here since 1997, and I have developed a system that I trust, my own analysis of the data. And I’m not a meteorologist. I’m not gonna tell you what mine is because I don’t want to be misinterpreted as giving you a forecast. Well, I’m tempted to, though, because I’ve been exactly right since last Friday. I am tempted to tell you. ‘Cause I had people asking me back then. I’m tempted to tell you. But my better judgment says don’t go there.
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Big Water is my favorite scary word for a corporation.
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Translation of Limbaugh's long winded comments - "climate change is real, but I don't have the balls to admit it. So let me just go on this rant."
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Yeah, I can see it. Sort of like how Limbaugh, hell-bent on Viagra and uppers, tears a wide swath through the poorest population centers of the Caribbean.

Edit: but it's only a theory.
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I want to say it's ironic that a pioneer in the modern politicization of news is complaining about the politicization of news, but sadly it's not. Complaining about the thing you created guarantees you a job.
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Indirectly related - click thru, interesting article.

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Not so, according to a review published in the journal of Theoretical and Applied Climatology. The researchers tried to replicate the results of those 3% of papers—a common way to test scientific studies—and found biased, faulty results.

Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist at Texas Tech University, worked with a team of researchers to look at the 38 papers published in peer-reviewed journals in the last decade that denied anthropogenic global warming.

“Every single one of those analyses had an error—in their assumptions, methodology, or analysis—that, when corrected, brought their results into line with the scientific consensus,” Hayhoe wrote in a Facebook post.
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Wendell - I think we're mostly (with a few holdouts) on to the "well it's real, but it's a *good* thing" or "well it's real, but it's too expensive" phases of pigheaded denialism.

As hurricanes level cities.

Edit: BUT IT WAS COLD SOMEWHERE AMIRITE

Sometimes I wonder what RSP would make of this in the good old days. Then I remember that I have a mean self-destructive streak.
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I thought this thread was going to be about the band Rush.
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It's hard to even tell what his point is. Although I am amused by his secret hurricane forecast method. It totally works, but I'm not going to tell you !

In fairness though, tap water often is just as good as bottled. A fair portion of the time, bottled water just is tap water - if you read the fine print, it cites the source as municipal water of some city or other.
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quozl wrote:
I thought this thread was going to be about the band Rush.


I guess Rush is closer to your heart.

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quozl wrote:
I thought this thread was going to be about the band Rush.


They say there are strangers who threaten us
Our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves
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bbenston wrote:
Wendell - I think we're mostly (with a few holdouts) on to the "well it's real, but it's a *good* thing" or "well it's real, but it's too expensive" phases of pigheaded denialism.

As hurricanes level cities.

Edit: BUT IT WAS COLD SOMEWHERE AMIRITE

Sometimes I wonder what RSP would make of this in the good old days. Then I remember that I have a mean self-destructive streak.

Yeah, why are you back? I thought you took a break for health reasons. I stayed, but didn't play in any toxic threads.
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einsteinidahosu wrote:
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Wendell - I think we're mostly (with a few holdouts) on to the "well it's real, but it's a *good* thing" or "well it's real, but it's too expensive" phases of pigheaded denialism.

As hurricanes level cities.

Edit: BUT IT WAS COLD SOMEWHERE AMIRITE

Sometimes I wonder what RSP would make of this in the good old days. Then I remember that I have a mean self-destructive streak.

Yeah, why are you back? I thought you took a break for health reasons. I stayed, but didn't play in any toxic threads.


Health reasons? Mental health, maybe - RSP then needed a giant enema, and I'm glad it finally happened. If any standards of moderation were to be applied, it was only a matter of time before the Breitbart/4chan crowd wouldn't be able to help themselves.

The break was good, and... I guess I can't help but waste time. Like I said... self-destructive streak.
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Sue_G wrote:
Big Water is my favorite scary word for a corporation.

With great reluctance--"Shoot me. Shoot me now."--Rush is riii... ri... r... rrr... not wrong that tap water is safe, and if you have at least a gallon a day--seven days?--per person of empty jugs lying around, filling them is a pretty safe solution. Assuming they survive the storm. You could also fill a bathtub or a storage tubs--assuming they survive the storm--though I'd want to run those through a Brita or Pur filter. Or you could put in a drop of plain chlorine bleach per I-forget-how-much-water-you-should-look-it-up.

Ah, yes: the teaming streets of the metropolis of Rockport, Texas, "The Texas Riviera", population 8766, pre-Harvey. Pretty much equidistant between Corpus Christi and Galveston/Houston.

And, yes, I do keep an eye on hurricane forecasts, especially since Katrina. But Wikipedia reminds me that Harvey dissipated and reformed in the Bay of Campeche August 19 and hit Rockport on the 26th. Seven days, not "10 to 12 days out".

I do hope Rush does his own storm predictions. He lives in Palm Beach, FL.

More seriously, I hope the FEMA rescue teams get a rest between Harvey and Irma. I don't think they are going to be able to come in behind Irma as they did Harvey.
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quozl wrote:
I thought this thread was going to be about the band Rush.


haha I also thought it was about the Lee/Lifeson band rumors!
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Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
Big Water is my favorite scary word for a corporation.

With great reluctance--"Shoot me. Shoot me now."--Rush is riii... ri... r... rrr... not wrong that tap water is safe, and if you have at least a gallon a day--seven days?--per person of empty jugs lying around, filling them is a pretty safe solution. Assuming they survive the storm. You could also fill a bathtub or a storage tubs--assuming they survive the storm--though I'd want to run those through a Brita or Pur filter. Or you could put in a drop of plain chlorine bleach per I-forget-how-much-water-you-should-look-it-up.

Ah, yes: the teaming streets of the metropolis of Rockport, Texas, "The Texas Riviera", population 8766, pre-Harvey. Pretty much equidistant between Corpus Christi and Galveston/Houston.

And, yes, I do keep an eye on hurricane forecasts, especially since Katrina. But Wikipedia reminds me that Harvey dissipated and reformed in the Bay of Campeche August 19 and hit Rockport on the 26th. Seven days, not "10 to 12 days out".

I do hope Rush does his own storm predictions. He lives in Palm Beach, FL.

More seriously, I hope the FEMA rescue teams get a rest between Harvey and Irma. I don't think they are going to be able to come in behind Irma as they did Harvey.


I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.
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Sue_G wrote:
I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.

"I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up."

Shrug.
 
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Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
Big Water is my favorite scary word for a corporation.
Ah, yes: the teaming streets of the metropolis of Rockport, Texas, "The Texas Riviera", population 8766, pre-Harvey. Pretty much equidistant between Corpus Christi and Galveston/Houston.
The first time I heard the Sherriff of Rockport refer to the town as the "Texas Riviera" I laughed for a solid 2 minutes. I had never heard of Rockport before Harvey. Never.

When I lived in Houston, I visited Galveston frequently, but I wouldn't even consider that to be the Texas Riviera. Port Aransas, neither, which I visited a couple of times as a Houstonian and several as a San Antonian.

I think most will agree, if there is a section of Texas coastline that is more popular than any other, that is more of a tourist destination, that fits the idea of a "Riviera" more than any other, it would be South Padre Island.
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Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.

"I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up."

Shrug.


Yes, sure. On the other hand, if you have a baby, you probably will be a bit more cautious even if you don't need to be. (I use tap water, but I'm a lunatic about sterilizing stuff too).
 
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Indirectly related - click thru, interesting article.

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Not so, according to a review published in the journal of Theoretical and Applied Climatology. The researchers tried to replicate the results of those 3% of papers—a common way to test scientific studies—and found biased, faulty results.

Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist at Texas Tech University, worked with a team of researchers to look at the 38 papers published in peer-reviewed journals in the last decade that denied anthropogenic global warming.

“Every single one of those analyses had an error—in their assumptions, methodology, or analysis—that, when corrected, brought their results into line with the scientific consensus,” Hayhoe wrote in a Facebook post.


At last!


We've finally found the key to making everyone realize the truth! Now everyone will be on the same page.
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Sue_G wrote:
Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.

"I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up."

Shrug.


Yes, sure. On the other hand, if you have a baby, you probably will be a bit more cautious even if you don't need to be. (I use tap water, but I'm a lunatic about sterilizing stuff too).

Thye latest rsearch is that overclean environments for small kids are very bad for later immune systems. But no one has enough bottles on hand for the gallons of water yiu would need before the mains supply is restored.
Tap water is fine for months though. When we had a boat we only refilled the fresh water every month or so. (weekend sailing only.)
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DavidDearlove wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.

"I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up."

Shrug.


Yes, sure. On the other hand, if you have a baby, you probably will be a bit more cautious even if you don't need to be. (I use tap water, but I'm a lunatic about sterilizing stuff too).

Thye latest rsearch is that overclean environments for small kids are very bad for later immune systems. But no one has enough bottles on hand for the gallons of water yiu would need before the mains supply is restored.
Tap water is fine for months though. When we had a boat we only refilled the fresh water every month or so. (weekend sailing only.)


Lol, well, my kid gets plenty of assault on his immune system from daycare.
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Sue_G wrote:
DavidDearlove wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
Tall_Walt wrote:
Sue_G wrote:
I don't think the issue with tap water is that you can't bottle it safely. It's using it directly if the water supply gets contaminated or if the equipment used to treat public water stops working - during, say, a hurricane. Right? So he's actually not right.

"I’m sure you have some empty water bottles from previous usage. Just put them under the faucet and fill it up."

Shrug.


Yes, sure. On the other hand, if you have a baby, you probably will be a bit more cautious even if you don't need to be. (I use tap water, but I'm a lunatic about sterilizing stuff too).

Thye latest rsearch is that overclean environments for small kids are very bad for later immune systems. But no one has enough bottles on hand for the gallons of water yiu would need before the mains supply is restored.
Tap water is fine for months though. When we had a boat we only refilled the fresh water every month or so. (weekend sailing only.)


Lol, well, my kid gets plenty of assault on his immune system from daycare.


Used to be a lot more cautious with my first child. Now on my 6th. Don't really worry so much about it anymore.
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In the darkness
In the wake of the endless flood
It flowed into our memory
It flowed into our blood

When something broke the surface
Just to see the starry dome
We still feel that relation
When the water takes us home
In the flying spray of the ocean
The water takes you home

Springing from the weight
Of the mountains
Like the heart of the earth
Would burst
Flowing out from marble fountains
In the dreams of a desert thirst

Something swam through
The jungles
Where the mighty rivers roam
Something breaks the silence
When the water takes you home
I hear the wordless voices
When the water takes me home

Waves that crash on the shoreline
Torrents of tropical rain
Streaming down
Beyond our memory
Streaming down inside our veins

When something left the ocean
To crawl high above the foam
We still feel that elation
When the water takes us home
In a driving rain of redemption
The water takes me home
 
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DavidDearlove wrote:
Thye latest rsearch is that overclean environments for small kids are very bad for later immune systems. But no one has enough bottles on hand for the gallons of water yiu would need before the mains supply is restored.

Houston actually didn't lose power, generally. The local nuclear plant got missed by the wind field, so it didn't have to shut down. I suspect most standing homes have water. The rule of thumb is a gallon (4l) per day, though if it's hot, that can go up a lot.

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Tap water is fine for months though. When we had a boat we only refilled the fresh water every month or so. (weekend sailing only.)

It depends on how it's treated. Some treatments lose effectiveness in just a few days. Filtered or distilled water can support bacteria immediately. It might be worth checking with your local water supplier.
 
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