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Larry Ham
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Hope this doesn't sound silly, but I need you AW veterans to tell me I'll be able to handle this game. I've played a lot of BFN and Day of Days, and I bought AW because, obviously, I love the topic. But the rules are pretty daunting, to say the least. Am I going to be able to learn this amazing game?
 
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Hi Larry,

This is a step up in complexity from BfN but also more rewarding. Day of Days is like playing Candyland in comparison.

Some people might tell you it's better to start with Hurtgen: Hells Forest to learn the system. I actually think AW is better. The terrain and rule exceptions are less than Hurtgen.

I like to take on the whole enchilada when learning a game. I don't like the step by step process. However with this system it can be daunting. Not knowing what your game learning habits are makes it difficult to recommend how to learn this. When starting a campaign you have to get through the Airborne and Amphib modules and then a couple of turns before you are playing complete turns using the logistics system.

The logistics system is the most intimidating part of the rules in my opinion, but once you have done it a few times you realize it really isn't that complicated. Combat isn't complicated but there are several steps for both ground and fire support. Those become second nature again as you get comfortable with it.

No short cuts to learning this. Get units out on the map as you read the different rules sections so you can see how it works on the map. Then go for it. Joe Youst and Doug Johnson are very active and helpful here and on CSW. Those of us who have played it can also aid you with questions and clarifications.

It is hands down the best Normandy Campaign game there is and playing is very rewarding. Go for it!
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There's no lift to the top, you have to take the stairs, one floor at a time. I would say I am a reasonably experienced gamer but have found this a tough one to learn. The help on here, Joey's videos and the payback from the game has kept me going.
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While not an "AW Veteran" in any sense, I second Tom's reccommendation. Get some counters on a map and start moving them around, looking up stuff as you go. This is where Hurtgen works better as an intro game; there are small scenarios, where in AW even the smallest scenario is still pretty big and takes time to set up. Of course you could also use VASSAL to alleviate the setup time issue after the first time.

GOSS is big and complicated but not unplayable. Just get it on a table and start learning.
 
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Larry Ham
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I've read several threads that mentioned the videos. It sounds like they are being modified to correct some errors. Does anyone have an idea when they will be available again? And thanks for the help everyone!
 
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Larry,

Here is video one of the Hurtgen set: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mM00AgNFc

Here is video one of the Amphibious portion of Atlantic Wall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nlJcQNGSy8
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Larry Ham
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Thanks for the links!
 
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Larry,

Dive in and if you have questions, there is plenty of support right here.

I monitor all these GOSS boards and try to answer in a timely manner.
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