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Sonny A.
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Should players follow turn order when announcing how many patents they buy after the research phase?

All the times I've played it's been a free for all, where players state how many cards they keep and then pay.

But sometimes it might be of strategic importance to know how many cards your opponent keeps, before deciding if you want to keep a certain card.

For example if you let your opponent keep Predators and you consider keeping Livestock. You don't want to keep Livestock if your opponent keeps 4 cards, but you'll go for it if she keeps 1.
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Florian Ruckeisen
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I guess if you want to be hardcore about it, player order is the way to go.

I've never had anything but chaotic free-for-all announcements come up, but you're right that this can convey information that sometimes will influence someone else's decision.
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Yeah, that situation came up on my last game. If you want to avoid it just say it in turn order. But most of the time it won't matter.
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Same here - normally it doesnt matter, but if you feel like you must, ask to do it that turn in turn order.
Still might not do you any good depending where you are in the turn order, but there's not much else to it.
 
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Kelly Krieble
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Just have everyone decide which cards they're keeping in their right hand and simultaneously reveal.

Honestly, anyone who needs to know this info is taking the game way too seriously. About the only time it would matter is for the one milestone that requires 16 cards in hand.
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SonnyDK wrote:
Should players follow turn order when announcing how many patents they buy after the research phase?

All the times I've played it's been a free for all, where players state how many cards they keep and then pay.

But sometimes it might be of strategic importance to know how many cards your opponent keeps, before deciding if you want to keep a certain card.

For example if you let your opponent keep Predators and you consider keeping Livestock. You don't want to keep Livestock if your opponent keeps 4 cards, but you'll go for it if she keeps 1.

How would you know they're keeping predators?
 
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Robert Manning
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pinoeppel wrote:
SonnyDK wrote:
Should players follow turn order when announcing how many patents they buy after the research phase?

All the times I've played it's been a free for all, where players state how many cards they keep and then pay.

But sometimes it might be of strategic importance to know how many cards your opponent keeps, before deciding if you want to keep a certain card.

For example if you let your opponent keep Predators and you consider keeping Livestock. You don't want to keep Livestock if your opponent keeps 4 cards, but you'll go for it if she keeps 1.

How would you know they're keeping predators?
Pass Predators to them as the last card in the draft and they buy all four cards into their hand?
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Allen Cordell
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this sounds like a fun killer to me
 
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Derry Salewski
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alphasixty wrote:
this sounds like a fun killer to me


Is it somehow different from paying attention to where people are building cities, going for awards or whatever else you consider in this game that is not light by a long stretch?

What would be the point of playing with a drafting variant if you're not going to care about it?

What part of the game is fun to you . . .
 
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Sonny A.
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pinoeppel wrote:
How would you know they're keeping predators?


I prefer to play with the draft variant. If you haven't tried it I really recommend it. It becomes a much better game (imo of course).
 
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rmanning wrote:
pinoeppel wrote:
SonnyDK wrote:
Should players follow turn order when announcing how many patents they buy after the research phase?

All the times I've played it's been a free for all, where players state how many cards they keep and then pay.

But sometimes it might be of strategic importance to know how many cards your opponent keeps, before deciding if you want to keep a certain card.

For example if you let your opponent keep Predators and you consider keeping Livestock. You don't want to keep Livestock if your opponent keeps 4 cards, but you'll go for it if she keeps 1.

How would you know they're keeping predators?
Pass Predators to them as the last card in the draft and they buy all four cards into their hand?


...in an even numbered generation so drafting direction is opposite of play order...

This sounds like a very specific and rare situation.....
 
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Sonny A.
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pinoeppel wrote:
This sounds like a very specific and rare situation.....


Except in 2 player games..
 
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Florian Ruckeisen
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It is a somewhat rare occurence, but when it does come up, it can matter quite a bit.
 
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