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Ralph Tricoche
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Which do you prefer and why?
Since they play so similar which do you reach for when you are looking for this kind of experience?
 
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I play and like them both but I lean toward DOTR.

I prefer the theme, and to me, Pandemic seems more puzzly. In many cases the ideal move is obvious. In DOTR, while that's the case sometimes, more often there's an important choice to make and the thing you choose not to do could come back and bite you.

Both have variable player powers but DOTR seems more variable. The quest deck is a nice addition too which can add yet another challenging choice.

I enjoy the epic scope and feel of DOTR more.

NB - I have only played base game of both of these, no expansions.

For me, they are different kinds of experiences, though some of their 'skeleton' are the same. I prefer the DOTR type of experience.
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Of the two, I personally prefer Defenders of the Realm, but I haven't tried it out on my current game group yet. I would go with whichever theme you enjoy more. Also, if you don't want to invest a ton of time into painting minis, Pandemic would be the way to go. Eagle Games does offer a pre-painted option on their site for Defenders, but that isn't cheap.
 
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Another vote for DotR...

I find it's just meatier than Pandemic. Also the theme, I love fantasy, and the old school art does fit for me.

Pandemic is good too, it was my wife's favourite before I got DotR. The elevator pitch I used was, it's pandemic, but with a fantasy theme, and more choices.

Pandemic is still king for the non gamers. Non gamers tend to shy away form fantasy themes, especially the old art style. The simpler gameplay makes it so easy teach too...
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I like Defenders of the Realm because it's two games that I love mashed into one; Pandemic (prime) & Talisman.
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Depends in part on your playtime and how much you like complexity - I find pandemic gets played much more often because it is quicker and less complex. I enjoy them both very much.
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jimmontanus wrote:
Depends in part on your playtime and how much you like complexity - I find pandemic gets played much more often because it is quicker and less complex. I enjoy them both very much.


Seems to be a valid point.
 
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I have both (and flash point) and I enjoy all of them.

I think it really does come down to theme.
Where there are mechanical differences, these two are very similar.

When given the choice I usually pick DotR. Where my friends all choose Pandemic.
 
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Somebody who preferred Pandemic wrote a review some years back detailing why, and I spoke in opposition explaining why I preferred DotR. A good, fairly detailed discussion took place addressing your title question: Distinguishes itself from Pandemic, but not in a good way
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I've explained in other threadsn DotR "fixes" almost everything I don't like about Pandemic. Pandemic is much quicker, though.
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DotR will always have my heart, but Pandemic Legacy was a much better gaming experience (IMO.)

Give me a Defenders Legacy, and I will be a happy, happy man.
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Defenders Legacy? Why haven't we done this yet?!?!?
 
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I like the idea, but DotR is far too expensive for permanent board changes and limited life (in terms of gameplay). I'd much prefer campaigns.
 
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Ralph: in addition to the fantasy theme, DotR adds a layer of randomness/unpredictability by using dice for conflict resolution. I like that myself, but some folks don't. YMMV.

My adult kids enjoy Pandemic, so I picked up Legacy, Cthulhu, and Iberia. Haven't gotten to those yet. They have yet to try DotR, but I think they'll like it. My only gripe with it is trying to find locations on the map, but that's a small complaint. Played loads of DotR with my game club buddies back home and always had a blast!

So my current answer is that I reach for Pandemic as that's what the kids like. Hope to broaden their horizons soon as I like my Defenders...
 
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BIgLatinDude wrote:
Which do you prefer and why?
Since they play so similar which do you reach for when you are looking for this kind of experience?


Both.

Slight edge to Pandemic. Shorter set-up and play time. I have kids and a career so that kind of thing matters but I own and play both happily.
 
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Hey, check out the files section. Someone was kind enough to take a the board and make it easier to find things. It works very well and I use it every game!


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Ralph: in addition to the fantasy theme, DotR adds a layer of randomness/unpredictability by using dice for conflict resolution. I like that myself, but some folks don't. YMMV.

My adult kids enjoy Pandemic, so I picked up Legacy, Cthulhu, and Iberia. Haven't gotten to those yet. They have yet to try DotR, but I think they'll like it. My only gripe with it is trying to find locations on the map, but that's a small complaint. Played loads of DotR with my game club buddies back home and always had a blast!

So my current answer is that I reach for Pandemic as that's what the kids like. Hope to broaden their horizons soon as I like my Defenders...
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Thanks, Ray!
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hentzau wrote:
DotR will always have my heart, but Pandemic Legacy was a much better gaming experience (IMO.)

Give me a Defenders Legacy, and I will be a happy, happy man.



Prepare to be a "happy, happy man" in late 2018 or by the start of 2019. More news and info forthcoming in the first quarter of 2018! Rick Soued -- for EGG Games and Richard Launius
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Wow. Seriously? BEST NEWS OF THE YEAR!!!
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I'm so happy, a defenders legacy is finally happening! I really hope the strategic card battle system against the generals proposed in the troll alliance expansion is implemented in the legacy version.
 
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ricks wrote:
hentzau wrote:
DotR will always have my heart, but Pandemic Legacy was a much better gaming experience (IMO.)

Give me a Defenders Legacy, and I will be a happy, happy man.



Prepare to be a "happy, happy man" in late 2018 or by the start of 2019. More news and info forthcoming in the first quarter of 2018! Rick Soued -- for EGG Games and Richard Launius


thumbsdown Absolutely worst news of the year! yuk
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ricks wrote:
hentzau wrote:
DotR will always have my heart, but Pandemic Legacy was a much better gaming experience (IMO.)

Give me a Defenders Legacy, and I will be a happy, happy man.



Prepare to be a "happy, happy man" in late 2018 or by the start of 2019. More news and info forthcoming in the first quarter of 2018! Rick Soued -- for EGG Games and Richard Launius


Holy crap! I didn't notice the response! This is some really great news! Thanks Rick! (And Richard!)
 
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I feel they are both awesome games. I just like more options and I feel DotR offers that. When I want faster pace and more strategy pandemic hits the table.
 
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yuk

Effort wasted on a legacy game would be better spent publishing expansion(s) already available from designer.whistle
 
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