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Elise Kimber
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Hi everyone, I've just heard rave reviews about TIME from a friend but I had a question that I can't find a definitive answer to.
Personally, the dark themes and horror is fine with me but the one thing that makes me very uncomfortable is the occult (including things that some people classify as "tame", like tarot cards etc). I've read that there are pentagrams in the game - are there any (major or minor) occult themes present within the story?

Or is it more of a Scooby-Doo type (sorry, first example that came to mind) deal where everything isn't as it seems? Feel free to reply in spoilers if you need to.

 
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There is definitely an occult thing going on here in the first story.
It's not a Scooby Doo type story at all.

It may turn out that there is a scientific explanation for it all, but it is certainly presented as occult.

The Marcy case is basically a zombie themed game (more sci-fi than horror) and the prophesy of dragons is fantasy.

I have not played the others, but it sounds like you should skip the fist one.

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To be clear you should actively oppose the occult in game if that helps.

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The appearance of things in TIME Stories are not always what they appear to be:
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Yes, there is a pentagram.

No, as far as we know it is nothing to do with the occult and everything to do with the science (fiction) of time travel and a long drawn out conflict
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The OP's stated dislikes will definitely be "triggered" by the first adventure in Time Stories, and possibly others. If he really feels that strongly about it, he should take a pass.
 
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There is magic in other scenarios, so even if the Asylum can be explained "scientifically", there may be a problem with expansions.
 
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Asylum is literally about
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someone trying to summon something (with a pentagram and everything).

There is a scientific explanation but it's very handwavey.


Not knowing more about why OP dislikes the occult, I would suggest to avoid the game.
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I have also a problem with occult things going on and we had a small issue with the base game (asylum).

I played asylum (with a other role) and as a supporting player once again and i fixed the occult thing. In the scenario the fix worked very well.

I replaced the occult 'cards' with a minipuzzle from an other game. In my eyes it was necessary and the funfactor was only a bit lower (since i had to overlay one card, i simply add 4 envelopes with the mini puzzle in it and write the coresponding number on the envelopes.)

(I can explain the fix, also for firsttime player without spoiling if someone want it - PM me)

Gamefun = Original(Asylum)Fun - OccultFix(1)

Have any bood played endurance? And is there an occult things in it?
 
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quosa wrote:
Have any bood played endurance? And is there an occult things in it?

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Lovecraftian, does that count?
 
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Scifi is Ok/ Fantasy is Ok/ and should be at least PEGI 16
 
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quosa wrote:
...and should be at least PEGI 16

I don't believe PEGI rates non-digital media, but how did you come to that conclusion other than personal opinion?

I know some people get upset over themes and we all have different thresholds (I've seen someone describe content in The Marcy Case as explicit pornography which I found laughable), but I haven't seen anything in TIME Stories that I wouldn't let my 10 year old nephew see (although I'm hopeful that Estrella Drive will change my mind). On the other hand, I wouldn't want to play it with him because my group approaches it as a game for adults.
 
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Well, looking at the PEGI website.


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PEGI 12
Videogames that show violence of a slightly more graphic nature towards fantasy character and/or non graphic violence towards human-looking characters or recognisable animals, as well as videogames that show nudity of a slightly more graphic nature would fall in this age category. Any bad language in this category must be mild and fall short of sexual expletives.

PEGI 16
This rating is applied once the depiction of violence (or sexual activity) reaches a stage that looks the same as would be expected in real life. More extreme bad language, the concept of the use of tobacco and drugs and the depiction of criminal activities can be content of games that are rated 16.


So yes for digital only. But it looks like 12-16 would be correct.

Yes sensitivity matters.


On the US side using ESRB

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EVERYONE 10+
Content is generally suitable for ages 10 and up. May contain more cartoon, fantasy or mild violence, mild language and/or minimal suggestive themes.


esrb ratings symbol for T-rated games
TEEN
Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and/or infrequent use of strong language.


esrb ratings symbol for m-rated games
MATURE
Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language


I would say teen.

Yes that is my opinion, but there is certainly more mature material in the game. Some 10 year olds could certainly handle it. But others would have issues with it.

(No I am not talking about the occult only, nor nudity only)

Now, to be fair the elements are handled tastefully and could easily lead to discussions of the related issues, but they are there.

Since it has been mentioned, the Marcy Case technically contains pornography. But I agree it is of little to no concern.

The violence and the moral choices that need to be made are much more of a mature subject mater. Again, I would say most teenagers should certainly be fine with it.

And to be clear, even if what happens is explained as sci-fi, it has all the trappings of occult. For someone who is sensitive to that issue the Asylum might not be the best place to go. (unintended humor there)
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There are similar issues with Rape, and Drug Use
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Space Cowboys pitches the game at 12+, that seems reasonable.

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Stating that there is a rape in Asylum is factually incorrect. The incident could lead to that conclusion, but it is never mentioned and doesn't go beyond having to talk your way out of the situation. More explicit things happen in bodice-ripper literature.
 
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Scooperman wrote:
Space Cowboys pitches the game at 12+, that seems reasonable.

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Stating that there is a rape in Asylum is factually incorrect. The incident could lead to that conclusion, but it is never mentioned and doesn't go beyond having to talk your way out of the situation. More explicit things happen in bodice-ripper literature.


Fair enough, I did not intend to imply that the first actually happened, (it was not clear in what I wrote) just that the subject was there.

I am agreement that 12+ is reasonable., But given the criteria that PEGI uses it would be closer to 16. But that seems high to me.
 
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