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I am a little surprised there has been so little discussion about the weapons in Massive Darkness. Other than rule questions, almost nothing has been said about them. Because of this, I decided to go through all the treasure cards and do a break down of what is available at each level. Below you will find a list of everything per level, as well as a list with count of each type


Level 1 - 41

T001 - Armor of Life
T002 - Armor of Life
T003 - Chainmail Armor
T004 - Chainmail Armor
T005 - Plate Armor
T006 - Plate Armor
T007 - Guillotine Potion
T008 - Lesser Healing Potion
T009 - Lesser Healing Potion
T010 - Lesser Healing Potion
T011 - Lesser Healing Potion
T012 - Lesser Healing Potion
T013 - Wooden Ring
T014 - Gnomish Gold Sack
T015 - Gnomish Gold Sack
T016 - Charm of Protection
T017 - Mage's Charm
T018 - Lucky Find
T019 - Orb of Courage
T020 - Scepter
T021 - Scepter of Fear
T022 - Scepter of Hate
T023 - Wand of Healing
T024 - Battle Axe
T025 - Battle Axe
T026 - Fire Sword
T027 - Great Sword
T028 - Great Sword
T029 - Short Sword
T030 - Short Sword
T031 - Mace
T032 - Dagger of Sure Strike
T033 - Dagger
T034 - Dwarven Shield
T035 - Spiked Shield
T036 - Composite Bow
T037 - Javelin
T038 - Plague Javelin
T039 - Skirmish Bow
T040 - Javelin of Sure Strike
T041 - Trapped Chest: Acid Cloud


Armor - 6
Armor of Life
Armor of Life
Chainmail Armor
Chainmail Armor
Plate Armor
Plate Armor


Potions - 6
Guillotine Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion


Items - 3
Wooden Ring
Charm of Protection
Mage's Charm


Magic Weapons - 5

Orb - 1
Orb of Courage (2H)

Scepter - 3
Scepter (1H)
Scepter of Fear (2H)
Scepter of Hate (1H)

Wand - 1
Wand of Healing (1H)


Melee Weapons - 10

Axe - 2
Battle Axe (1H)
Battle Axe (1H)

Sword - 5
Fire Sword (1H)
Great Sword (2H)
Great Sword (2H)
Short Sword (1H)
Short Sword (1H)

Mace - 1
Mace (1H)

Dagger - 2
Dagger of Sure Strike (1H)
Dagger (1H)


Shields - 2
Dwarven Shield
Spiked Shield


Range Weapons - 5

Bow - 2
Skirmish Bow (2H)
Composite Bow (2H)

Javelin - 3
Javelin (2H)
Plague Javelin (2H)
Javelin of Sure Strike (2H)


Misc. - 3
Gnomish Gold Sack
Gnomish Gold Sack
Lucky Find


Traps - 1
Trapped Chest: Acid Cloud
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Level 2 - 36

T042 - Chainmail Armor
T043 - Chainmail Armor
T044 - Plate Armor
T045 - Plate Armor
T046 - King's Armor
T047 - Cloak of Shadows
T048 - Guillotine Potion
T049 - Lesser Healing Potion
T050 - Lesser Healing Potion
T051 - Lesser Healing Potion
T052 - King's Crown
T053 - Ring of Shadow
T054 - Lucky Find
T055 - Wand of Stupor
T056 - Battle Staff
T057 - Scepter
T058 - Shadow Orb
T059 - Wand of Healing
T060 - Axe of Renewal
T061 - Sword of Might
T062 - Great Sword
T063 - Hammer
T064 - Ice Sword
T065 - King's Mace
T066 - War Mace
T067 - Long Sword
T068 - Short Sword
T069 - Spear if Impalement
T070 - Elven Shield
T071 - Kite Shield
T072 - Composite Bow
T073 - Fire Bow
T074 - Javelin
T075 - Meteor Javelin
T076 - Javelin of Sure Strike
T077 - Trapped Chest: Sleeping Gas


Armor - 6
Chainmail Armor
Chainmail Armor
Plate Armor
Plate Armor
King's Armor
Cloak of Shadows


Potions - 4
Guillotine Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion


Items - 2
King's Crown
Ring of Shadow


Magic Weapons - 5

Orb - 1
Shadow Orb (2H)

Scepter - 1
Scepter (1H)

Staff - 1
Battle Staff (2H)

Wand - 2
Wand of Stupor (1H)
Wand of Healing (1H)


Melee Weapons - 10

Axe - 1
Axe of Renewal (2H)

Sword - 5
Sword of Might (1H)
Great Sword (2H)
Ice Sword (1H)
Long Sword (1H)
Short Sword (1H)

Hammer - 1
Hammer (1H)

Mace - 2
King's Mace (1H)
War Mace (2H)

Spear - 1
Spear if Impalement (2H)


Shields - 2
Elven Shield
Kite Shield


Range Weapons - 5

Bow - 2
Composite Bow (2H)
Fire Bow (2H)

Javelin - 3
Javelin (2H)
Meteor Javelin (2H)
Javelin of Sure Strike (2H)


Misc. - 1
Lucky Find


Traps - 1
Trapped Chest: Sleeping Gas
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Level 3 - 34

T078 - Chainmail Armor
T079 - Chainmail Armor
T080 - Plate Armor
T081 - Plate Armor
T082 - Cold Iron Armor
T083 - Lesser Healing Potion
T084 - Lesser Healing Potion
T085 - Lesser Healing Potion
T086 - Gloves of Fast Hands
T087 - Ring of Power
T088 - Double Chest
T089 - Lucky Find
T090 - Meteor Scepter
T091 - Orb of Darklight
T092 - Scepter
T093 - Staff of Defense
T094 - Wand of Healing
T095 - Ice Mace
T096 - Battle Axe
T097 - Great Sword
T098 - Ice Axe
T099 - Long Sword
T100 - Long Sword
T101 - Plague Sword
T102 - Spear of Impalement
T103 - Dagger of Sure Strike
T104 - Light Mace
T105 - Dwarven Shield
T106 - Kite Shield
T107 - Composite Bow
T108 - Fire Bow
T109 - Javelin
T110 - Javelin
T111 - Plague Javelin


Armor - 5
Chainmail Armor
Chainmail Armor
Plate Armor
Plate Armor
Cold Iron Armor


Potions - 3
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion


Items - 2
Gloves of Fast Hands
Ring of Power


Magic Weapons - 5

Orb - 1
Orb of Darklight (2H)

Scepter - 2
Meteor Scepter (2H)
Scepter (1H)

Staff - 1
Staff of Defense (2H)

Wand - 1
Wand of Healing (1H)


Melee Weapons - 10

Axe - 2
Battle Axe (1H)
Ice Axe (2H)

Sword - 4
Great Sword (2H)
Long Sword (1H)
Long Sword (1H)
Plague Sword (1H)

Dagger - 1
Dagger of Sure Strike - (1H)

Mace - 2
Ice Mace (1H)
Light Mace (1H)

Spear - 1
Spear if Impalement (2H)


Shields - 2
Dwarven Shield
Kite Shield


Range Weapons - 5

Bow - 2
Composite Bow (2H)
Fire Bow (2H)

Javelin - 3
Javelin (2H)
Javelin (2H)
Plague Javelin (2H)


Misc. - 2
Double Chest
Lucky Find
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Level 4 - 33

T112 - Knight's Armor
T113 - Plate Armor
T114 - Plate Armor
T115 - Shadow Armor
T116 - Lesser Healing Potion
T117 - Lesser Healing Potion
T118 - Lesser Healing Potion
T119 - Ring of Braveness
T120 - Knight's Helmet
T121 - Double Chest
T122 - Lucky Find
T123 - Wand of Stupor
T124 - Orb of Courage
T125 - Scepter
T126 - Scepter of Fear
T127 - Warrior Mage's Scepter
T128 - Battle Axe
T129 - Battle Axe
T130 - Fire Sword
T131 - Great Axe
T132 - Hammer
T133 - Ice Sword
T134 - Long Sword
T135 - Meteor Hammer
T136 - Short Sword
T137 - Dagger of Sure Strike
T138 - Knight's Shield
T139 - Kite Shield
T140 - Composite Bow
T141 - Javelin
T142 - Javelin
T143 - Piercing Javelin
T144 - Ranger's Bow


Armor - 4
Knight's Armor
Plate Armor
Plate Armor
Shadow Armor


Potions - 3
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion


Items - 2
Ring of Braveness
Knight's Helmet


Magic Weapons - 5

Orb - 1
Orb of Courage (2H)

Scepter - 3
Scepter (1H)
Scepter of Fear (2H)
Warrior-Mage's Scepter (1H)

Wand - 1
Wand Stupor (1H)


Melee Weapons - 10

Axe - 3
Battle Axe (1H)
Battle Axe (1H)
Great Axe (2H)

Sword - 4
Fire Sword (1H)
Ice Sword (1H)
Long Sword (1H)
Short Sword (1H)

Hammer - 2
Hammer (2H)
Meteor Hammer (2H)

Dagger - 1
Dagger of Sure Strike - (1H)


Shields - 2
Knight's Shield
Kite Shield


Range Weapons - 5

Bow - 2
Composite Bow (2H)
Ranger's Bow (2H)

Javelin - 3
Javelin (2H)
Javelin (2H)
Piercing Javelin (2H)


Misc. - 2
Double Chest
Lucky Find
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Level 5 - 32

T145 - Chainmail Armor
T146 - Plate Armor
T147 - Plate Armor
T148 - Troll Skin Armor
T149 - Lesser Healing Potion
T150 - Lesser Healing Potion
T151 - Lesser Healing Potion
T152 - Quicksilver Boots
T153 - Troll Ring
T154 - Ring of Power
T155 - Double Chest
T156 - Lucky Find
T157 - Orb of Teleport
T158 - Scepter
T159 - Scepter of Hate
T160 - Staff of Final Blow
T161 - Wand of Healing
T162 - Fire Sword
T163 - Great Sword
T164 - Great Sword
T165 - Headhunter
T166 - Long Sword
T167 - Magma Sword
T168 - Short Sword
T169 - Vampire Axe
T170 - Round Shield
T171 - Round Shield
T172 - Composite Bow
T173 - Ice Bow
T174 - Javelin
T175 - Javelin of Fury
T176 - Meteor Javelin


Armor - 4
Chainmail Armor
Plate Armor
Plate Armor
Troll Skin Armor


Potions - 3
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion
Lesser Healing Potion


Items - 3
Quicksilver Boots
Troll Ring
Ring of Power


Magic Weapons - 5

Orb - 1
Orb of Teleport (2H)

Scepter - 2
Scepter (1H)
Scepter of Hate (1H)

Staff - 1
Staff of Final Blow (2H)

Wand - 1
Wand Healing (1H)


Melee Weapons - 8

Axe - 2
Headhunter (2H)
Vampire Axe (1H)

Sword - 6
Fire Sword (1H)
Great Sword (2H)
Great Sword (2H)
Long Sword (1H)
Magma Sword (1H)
Short Sword (1H)


Shields - 2
Round Shield
Round Shield


Range Weapons - 5

Bow - 2
Composite Bow (2H)
Ice Bow (2H)

Javelin - 3
Javelin (2H)
Javelin of Fury (2H)
Meteor Javelin (2H)


Misc. - 2
Double Chest
Lucky Find
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Total Treasure - 176


Total Armor - 25


Total Potions - 19


Total Items - 12


Total Magic Weapons - 25
Orb - 5
Scepter - 11
Staff - 3
Wand - 6


Total Melee Weapons - 48
Axe - 10
Sword - 24
Mace - 5
Hammer - 3
Dagger - 4
Spear - 2


Total Shields - 10


Total Range Weapons - 25
Bow - 10
Javelin - 15


Total Misc. - 10


Total Traps - 2
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Wait, you didn't list all the attributes of each card? pffft.(/sarcasm)


Thanks for this! (/seriously)
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Nice list and overview... but the last one should be lvl 5 items, right?
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egg_citizen wrote:
Nice list and overview... but the last one should be lvl 5 items, right?


Yes, my bad. I fixed it to reflect it is for the level 5 treasure.

I also updated the last list which has a combined total of all types of weapons through all 5 levels. I originally wanted to make this list just to see how many armor, shields, potions, weapons, etc. were available in each deck, and how they changed from level to level.

I find it interesting that there are trap cards the first two levels, but after that they totally disappear. I also think it's odd there are things like a third more javelins than bows, yet there isn't a single hero that is depicted using a javelin. There are 15 range weapons, yet only one dedicated range class (Ranger), and one more that can go range as secondary and has several range abilities (Nightrunner). Meanwhile there are only 2 dedicated magic users, yet 10 more total weapons for them.

I also found it interesting to look at some of the weapon types to see how many are available if you were to go for a weapon specialization, which several classes have. The Nightrunner has Dual Wield Specialist, the Barbarian Two-Handed Specialist, the Noble Warrior has Sword Specialist, and the Bonecrusher gets Mace and Hammer Specialist. Judging by the list, the Bonecrusher is the most restricted using his version of the skill since there are only 8 total weapons that are mace or hammers. Azrael is much more restricted than he seems since he only gets the most out of 2 handed swords (because of his hero special skill), which there are far fewer of (6).
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deathleech wrote:

Total Range Weapons - 15
Bow - 10
Javelin - 15

Do you mean 25 total ranged weapons? Those numbers don't add up.

I'm surprised how few traps there are. Only 2 in the whole deck? With that few, why even bother having traps?
 
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That was an error, I fixed it. I am not sure why there are only two traps, and furthermore why they are only at the beginning levels.
 
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Interesting observations. Thanks for the list. But I do not consider this "surprising" at all. It is quite obvious for me that this game was hardly playtested or balanced at all. Some review here described it as "deluxe make your own ruleset kit". A very good description.
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We always get one or two early in the game.

DoctorBandage wrote:

I'm surprised how few traps there are. Only 2 in the whole deck? With that few, why even bother having traps?
 
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fisha wrote:
We always get one or two early in the game.

DoctorBandage wrote:

I'm surprised how few traps there are. Only 2 in the whole deck? With that few, why even bother having traps?


Us too. That's why I'm surprised how few traps there actually are. It always seems like we find a trap within the first chamber or two. Apparently that's just really bad luck as opposed to a common occurrence.
 
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