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Hey, I'm involved with the development of the 7 Wonders interactive tutorial on the Dized app and its accompanying rules lookup tool. It functions as an “at a glance” response to those instant rules wobbles you may encounter during a game night when you don’t need the full tutorial.

Yes,we have the eyes and ears of the publishers to ensure that we cover all the minutia of the rules, as well as the dedicated in-house game gurus to double and triple check our homework. But we're also aware that this community has several lifetimes worth of game playing experience that we couldn't hope to ever compete with. If there is an area of the internet that will have discovered each and every rule misstep for a game there could ever have been,it's here.

So I'm posting this in the hope that we can begin a lively and informed discussion on teaching 7 Wonders, and a chance for you - the players - to make sure that we don't miss anything.

So that you can better understand our process, we break down the most current rules available for every title into a database,cross-referencing each and every rule and keyword to its partners, creating an exhaustive catalogue of knowledge for each game. We use this as the basis for how we interrogate the system to create both the tutorials and rule lookup. Then we mix in some good old-fashioned board game knowledge from our staff of professional developers and publishers I mentioned and voila! a game tutorial*.

Now here's where you brainiacs come in. We also include questions and answers that new players may well ask, and we'd really value your involvement.

So what are the most asked questions you've encountered when teaching or playing 7 Wonders? With these, we can make sure that we don't miss anything and this information will better help make the tutorials more responsive and intuitive for new and existing players.

*There is also some clever programming stuff that happens with our team of dedicated developers, animators, artists and musicians that helps make the magic happen.
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Numbers of Guilds for number of players?
Points for Science cards?
Halikarnassos: Which cards do I choose from?
Trade cards: Money now, points later?
Card: "Money for x cards my neighbors/I have": Do cards count that were added this round?
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The most common questions I've encountered:
How do you spend resources to buy structures?
How do you buy resources from your neighbors?
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Do you have to pay for the card you use to build your wonder?
Can I build more than one of the same structure?

Also, looking at the titles of the questions in the rules forum will also generate a lot.
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Wolfram wrote:
Numbers of Guilds for number of players?
Points for Science cards?
Halikarnassos: Which cards do I choose from?
Trade cards: Money now, points later?
Card: "Money for x cards my neighbors/I have": Do cards count that were added this round?


The science points totalling has given me some more grey hairs. And yes the card's added that round was also a sneaky one.
 
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rickfrank wrote:
The most common questions I've encountered:
How do you spend resources to buy structures?
How do you buy resources from your neighbors?


I found that there was a lot of resource coverage, as there is so many of them and breaking down what is a resource or a trade good as well. TY
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downeymb wrote:
Do you have to pay for the card you use to build your wonder?
Can I build more than one of the same structure?

Also, looking at the titles of the questions in the rules forum will also generate a lot.


Yes I've been scouring the forums since day one and note taking. And I've been using the kids as guinea pigs, I think they'll sick of playing it now.laugh
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How do building chains work?
 
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Now that's a good question. Current thinking is that when building a structure it will then prompt you to check for chains. As they only become available in Age 2 and 3 then as the tutorial is running you through the initial rules it will cover the chain rule in example and during Age 2 go deeper into that. I've been writing the rule lookup for them so it'll be in there, but it is one of those situations that requires some fine-tuning for it to work in the context of being taught and when to prompt it.

I've been doing some fairly intensive teaching of 7 Wonders with players in local cafes to try and fine tune when the best point is to introduce the rule while not being an information overload but also relaying an important bit of information that can be an advantage in those later Ages.

So yes, we're working on it.
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How about "snap a smartphone picture of a card" and boom! There's the explanation of its uses, links to its place in the build chains, and maybe tips for it?

Suddenly everyone at the table can look up there cards on their own and no one has to wait for help!

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jhebert wrote:
How about "snap a smartphone picture of a card" and boom! There's the explanation of its uses, links to its place in the build chains, and maybe tips for it?

Suddenly everyone at the table can look up there cards on their own and no one has to wait for help!



The augmented reality app for 7 Wonders already does some of this.
 
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mibar01 wrote:
Wolfram wrote:
Numbers of Guilds for number of players?
Points for Science cards?
Halikarnassos: Which cards do I choose from?
Trade cards: Money now, points later?
Card: "Money for x cards my neighbors/I have": Do cards count that were added this round?


The science points totalling has given me some more grey hairs. And yes the card's added that round was also a sneaky one.


IIRC there's a table in the files section for easy reference the science points.
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jhebert wrote:
How about "snap a smartphone picture of a card" and boom! There's the explanation of its uses, links to its place in the build chains, and maybe tips for it?

Suddenly everyone at the table can look up there cards on their own and no one has to wait for help!



I don't know if that's something that's been contemplated, but personally I love that. That is certainly going on the list.
 
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