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So the Soviet colonel, Stanislav Petrov, who in September 1983 correctly deduced that a detected American launch of five ICBMs was a computer error not a real launch and reported a system malfunction, has died. Actually, it was a couple of months ago, but his death wasn't widely reported at the time.

In any case, a toast to Colonel Petrov for his clear thinking. As he said, “When people start a war, they don’t start it with only five missiles.”

Oh and incidentally, what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.

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A man who should be remembered as a clear thinking and courageous hero, who sadly will likely end up being an obscure historical footnote.
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...what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.


In Soviet Union the paperwork finishes you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaPXVJWHji4

There's a movie!
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Thanks for that Wendel
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mcszarka wrote:


So did the movie ever get made?
 
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Rockin Rocko wrote:
mcszarka wrote:


So did the movie ever get made?


Friends of mine told me they saw it recently.
 
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Shall we play a game ?


How about a nice game of chess instead?
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wifwendell wrote:
...Actually, it was a couple of months ago, but his death wasn't widely reported at the time...


I'm sure Col. Petrov would've detected his own death months ago correctly. Sounds like a computer glitch in the Matrix to me.

And thanks to him, NATO vs. Warsaw Pact games remain what-ifs. We should hope that indefinitely.
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pete belli wrote:
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...what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.


In Soviet Union the paperwork finishes you.


Petrov's defense (no, not 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 ...) was that he had a phone in one hand, an intercom in the other, and no third hand.
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Some Russian teenager was probably playing the Russian version of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbqMuvnx5MU

 
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Staggering really, that the fate of the "World as We Know It" was, quite literally, in the hands of one man.

We are all unbelievably fortunate that it was him.
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Is this really related to wargames? It should be in "Historical Context".
 
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jumbit wrote:
Is this really related to wargames? It should be in "Historical Context".


A Red Army colonel averted nuclear war, a topic that has been included in many a wargame.

Close enough.
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pete belli wrote:
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...what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.


In Soviet Union the paperwork finishes you.


Umm yeah, Comrade Petrov... How's that log book coming along?

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wifwendell wrote:
jumbit wrote:
Is this really related to wargames? It should be in "Historical Context".


A Red Army colonel averted nuclear war, a topic that has been included in many a wargame.

Close enough.


Better than close. I'd have missed this had it been somewhere else.
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This story has been fairly well-known, if not broadly publicized for years. Petrov was indeed a hero of humanity, and for that, we raise a glass and shout Prosit!

But it wasn't just Petrov. The US NORAD command noted the alert status of Petrov's base, and without more information than that, counseled going on alert. But when the alert went silent, and no other bases were on alert, the US backed down despite some debate that it was a Soviet trick. Still, Petrov held us all in his hands.
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wifwendell wrote:
Oh and incidentally, what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.

As a child, I lived in a military town in the Far East. My father was a technician-liaison officer on the basis of naval aviation.
80 years are very nervous years. I remember at night when included siren, a soldier-messenger came, my father left, two regiments of bombers flew away. Later my father told me that "the American aircraft carrier was in neutral waters. This is a war. And our planes were going into the battle."
American navigational computers of an aircraft carrier group are also sometimes mistaken.
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Tumnin wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
Oh and incidentally, what was the Red Army's response? They gave Petrov a reprimand for not noting everything in the log book.

As a child, I lived in a military town in the Far East. My father was a technician-liaison officer on the basis of naval aviation.
80 years are very nervous years. I remember at night when included siren, a soldier-messenger came, my father left, two regiments of bombers flew away. Later my father told me that "the American aircraft carrier was in neutral waters. This is a war. And our planes were going into the battle."
American navigational computers of an aircraft carrier group are also sometimes mistaken.

Scary, isn't it, how many times this planet came to nuclear winter because of mechanical issues?
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Scary, isn't it, how many times this planet came to nuclear winter because of mechanical issues?

Dangerous toys. But the main reason is a people politicians.
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