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I have begun to venture into the wargame community.

A dark and scary place.

Seriously, the latest USE has arrived and I would like to sort and organize it from the beginning. It looks like one of the highest-count games I've seen, in terms of counters.

I can put off the larger task by only breaking out the counters I need, based on the tutorials... but in the long run, does anyone have suggestions on how to store the game?

Leaving it in the box, unpunched, is simply not an option.

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I think small ziploc baggies is fine; don't think you need counter trays. One of the nice things about USE is the relatively small # of units on the map at once while still giving a strategic feel.
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When I've played it FtF with Sal, I think that he had things organized in two counter trays. You could probably fit it in one with a minor loss of segregation.
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Yes, I use 2 counter trays, which GMT sells. To help with putting counters away, I put a small label (using masking tape) on the lid for each pocket of the tray. I then write what goes in that pocket. If I remember, I'll take a picture and post it.

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Welcome to the wonderful world of wargaming!
But if you think USE has a large number of counters, as the old saying goes, You ain't seen nuthin' yet!
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Oh, and welcome to the wargaming community!

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svasta wrote:
Oh, and welcome to the wargaming community!

Sal


Thank you!

I had to endure an all-day meeting in a room with wickedly painful office chairs and my lower back is killing me. I could NOT sit comfortably after an hour.

I was not looking for an excuse to stay in and learn the game this weekend, but I'll try to take advantage of it.
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jhebert wrote:
svasta wrote:
Oh, and welcome to the wargaming community!

Sal


Thank you!

I had to endure an all-day meeting in a room with wickedly painful office chairs and my lower back is killing me. I could NOT sit comfortably after an hour.

I was not looking for an excuse to stay in and learn the game this weekend, but I'll try to take advantage of it.


Well as a wargamer, I will tell you it's important to move around and stretch once in a while!
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wifwendell wrote:
jhebert wrote:
svasta wrote:
Oh, and welcome to the wargaming community!

Sal


Thank you!

I had to endure an all-day meeting in a room with wickedly painful office chairs and my lower back is killing me. I could NOT sit comfortably after an hour.

I was not looking for an excuse to stay in and learn the game this weekend, but I'll try to take advantage of it.


Well as a wargamer, I will tell you it's important to move around and stretch once in a while!


And stay hydrated! A dose or two of liquid courage always helps.
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The file clerk in me has a label maker that I got on sale; the refills cost more than what I paid for the machine itself.

Anyway, two trays, one for the armies and one for the tracking chits.

I have a hobby box that holds the Case Blue version of this, along with all the various versions of the rules that Sal has been kind enough to post. I'll get another one to hold the trays when the mounted mapboards arrive, because their new home will be the original box.

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Nice, Joe! Thank you for taking time to lay it all out and photograph it. It really helps me to see a system at work.

Is either tray a deep one?

I was thinking of picking up a few of each. Is there difference enough to bother?
 
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I was able to get the pieces into one single GMT tray.
 
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Bob.Gibson wrote:
I was able to get the pieces into one single GMT tray.


Whaaa? I guess I could get the pieces into one single GMT tray, too, but then the question becomes: "How do I get the lid on?"

I am also considering asking GMT how I can buy just a USE box so I can have the mounted boards in one box and all the rest in the other box. Sal: You should have used your designer clout to insist on a nice big 3" box!
 
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If I use baggies instead of a tray can I fit the mounted boards in the box?
 
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jhebert wrote:
Nice, Joe! Thank you for taking time to lay it all out and photograph it. It really helps me to see a system at work.

Is either tray a deep one?

I was thinking of picking up a few of each. Is there difference enough to bother?


Both are regular GMT trays.

I have some deep dish trays that I also use (depending on the game), and my guess is that they take up about 1 1/2 GMTs, thickness wise.

You could probably get all the USE pieces in one GMT tray, but I tend to err on the side of quick setup (but slow tear down). If you prefer to put the game away quickly, YMMV. ;-)
 
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I am also considering asking GMT how I can buy just a USE box so I can have the mounted boards in one box and all the rest in the other box.


I've been pestering GMT's nice office ladies about just this thing. No such luck. Think I'm going to do with a couple of these:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008XPQF/?tag=article-bo...

I have several I use for ziplock games or offsizers like my Ace of Aces booklets.

 
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Sal: You should have used your designer clout to insist on a nice big 3" box!


For the Super Deluxe Edition, I'll demand a 6" box.

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@Joe Faust

How did you ever fit France, Vic, FNA, and Syria into 1 slot in your tray?

The number of counters for those 4 alone is 60, which is way too many for the standard-depth GMT tray slot (might fit 40-ish if I stand them on edge, but that's not entirely useful).

France = 42
VIC = 8
FNA = 6
Syria = 4
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60

Either I am missing something obvious, or you must have some elsewhere in those trays...? Or you have the one of the super-rare bottomless trays I once heard tell of by dim firelight...


@Salvatore Vasta

Nudge... a reminder to post your storage approach to USE. Thank you.


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How did you ever fit France, Vic, FNA, and Syria into 1 slot in your tray?

The number of counters for those 4 alone is 60, which is way too many for the GMT tray slot (might fit 40-ish if I stand them on edge, but that's not entirely useful).

Either I am missing something obvious, or you must have some elsewhere in those trays...?


No, they're all in one tray slot.

To be honest, I don't remember how I got them in. I never thought about it. Vic, FNA and Syr all have minimal counters as minors, and sixty sounds way high to me for all of them plus France, considering how WWII usually begins for them. Maybe it's 45+ years of packing counters into trays. Or maybe they are in a deep dish box, since I have a surfeit of them right now. Guess I'll have to check - you've got me curious now. I'll get back with you on this in a couple of days...

 
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Here is how I store the counters in GMT's counter trays.

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Here's a tray that fits in GMT boxes:



21 trays

They're a regularly stocked item at Walmart in the crafts/bead supplies section.

The latch isn't the most secure, but if you keep it in the box, that isn't an issue.

Oh yeah... and it has hinges, and not that cheap scored plastic that breaks after a few uses.
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Thank you, Salvatore and Michael! Your pictures are great.

I'm curious, two of the images in the thread show additional dice, such as a d10. I'm still reading rules and sorting bits (the meds for my back sent me to loopyland, so I've cut back on them to retain some functionality. It slowed my progress significantly, because as much I actually enjoy reading rules I could not fight the drug's insistence on lowering my eyelids, then my head...)

--One nap later--

I have a stash of spare dice from the years. Should I add a couple d10's or d6's to the game for events to come? I know if they were required, the game would have included them. Curious what folks are using them for (tracking something?).

Greatfully,

James
 
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No d10s are ever needed for Unconditional Surrender
 
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Thank you Sal and all the others who shared their images. Very useful for a new comer of the game.

By flatten the bottom insert, I have managed to put two GMT trays into the game box prefectly flushed. Now, only if I could fit the mounted maps in too...sigh, I need to figure out how to store them.

On the side note, the counters are kind of small to clip with my R2.5 clipper. Took me quite a while to finish without over doing it. I can’t wait to start learning this game!
 
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Should I add a couple d10's or d6's to the game for events to come? I know if they were required, the game would have included them. Curious what folks are using them for (tracking something?).


I use one d10 to track movement points for the activated unit. The game has a counter track for that but I prefer the die. Otherwise the three usefully colored d6 that came with the game are enough.
 
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