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Subject: Doubles Werewolf - Two Rolecards Per Role rss

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This game is the same base concept as the Texas Werewolf XIII series, but with different roles and combination rules (With thanks to Shushnik for allowing me the use of the mechanic.). I'm converting this from playing F2F to online, and it's me, and it's totally random, so don't necessarily expect balance.

All players will be dealt a first "card", this will determine your base role, whether Good, Aux or Wolf. Each player will then be dealt a second "card" which will determine whether you have a power. All combinations are possible and are explained below. There are 18 possible power cards, only 13 of which will be in play, randomly drawn. The Seer and Wolf power cards are guaranteed to be in play. If Lovers are drawn, both will be in play. The Apprentice will get a fresh use of any powers that are one use; they will not inherit any info, nor be able to use a power immediately as they gain it.

Any powers that do not have an order in will fail, except the Brutal, which will hit a random member of your own team.

First Card
2 x Wolf
1 x Aux (will default be given no information, i.e. Traitor)
10 x Villager

Second Card
Wolf - Wolf/Wolf - Alpha Wolf, scans as not Wolf to Seers
- Aux/Wolf - Wolf Cub, promotes to Wolf chat on death of first Wolf or if NKed
- Villy/Wolf - A standard Wolf
Brutal - Recipient is Brutal on death
Seer - Recipient views for Wolf/Not Wolf each night (effectively Wolf/Seer would
just be aware there is no Seer in the game)
BG - Recipient protects one person from death each night, can self-target, cannot
repeat target on consecutive nights, no limit to protection
Informed - Wolf/Informed - Will know the identity and cards of Aux
- Aux/Informed - Will know the identity and cards of Wolves
- Villy/Informed - Beholder, will be informed of the Seer on N0.
Will not be informed if the Seer is Wolf/Aux/Villy
Sorcerer - Views for Seer each night
Vigilante - Once per game, can kill another player as a night action
2 x Lover - If one Lover dies, the other will too. Share a chat. Alignments are
not necessarily the same. Win cons are not altered.
Witch - Will be able to roleblock one player each night. Doesn't stop
NK and cannot repeat.
Tough - Will survive the first time they should die, will not be told if used.
Apprentice - Will inherit the power card of the first power card holder to die
(excluding Villager cards). Could inherit Wolf power card.
6 x Villy - No power beyond base role


Wolves share a chat and a night kill order. Should they have any other powers, all Wolves will have ability to place orders on each others behalf.

Good wins when all Wolves are dead. Evil wins when the number of Wolves is the same as the number of non-Wolves.

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Player List According to Cassandra:
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13 players are signed up.

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Sudden realisation that this game is probably wrecked by a D1/D2 all claim. Which is pants. Might need to go to no reveal, but then I think Evil might be too powerful. I'll consider.

Feel free to weigh in, as usual
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Alternate option - Only reveal 2nd card.
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The deck for the 2nd card could have varying possible numbers of kinds of cards in it instead of a known distribution, I think?
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These seem like sensible suggestions, lets have a poll and we'll go from there.

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What way should I take to stop this game being utterly borged by an all claim?
No reveal!
No reveal, but actually a 15er with an extra Aux and an extra Villager base role and two extra Villager power roles!
Only reveal power card!
Extra power roles so not all will be in play!
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I love face to face doubles and was just saying Monday night how much I missed it.

I will be confused and out of my depth and only just awake at dusk, but I want to play anyway if no one objects. Thanks for running
 
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What a fancy roster!
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Righto, the poll is fairly clear, even with only a few votes. Wolf and Seer will be guaranteed power roles, I've added Tough, Witch, Apprentice and two more Villagers.
 
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If this starts this week or next, I'll have to drop as I'll be in Disney World.
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Provisional sign-up. Hope to play but depends when it actually runs.
 
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Javal wrote:
Provisional sign-up. Hope to play but depends when it actually runs.


When would be convenient?
 
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I'm not a huge fan of forced conversion. What if the apprentice is a power card hermit crab?
 
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Kortemaki wrote:
I'm not a huge fan of forced conversion. What if the apprentice is a power card hermit crab?


The apprentice card isn't quite forced conversion though, it could be held by a Wolf or an Aux too, or not even in the game.
 
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I just signed up on Cassandra. I just signed up on Cassandra.
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SerWave wrote:
If this starts this week or next, I'll have to drop as I'll be in Disney World.

Oh wait maybe I shouldn't have signed up
 
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tern73 wrote:
SerWave wrote:
If this starts this week or next, I'll have to drop as I'll be in Disney World.

Oh wait maybe I shouldn't have signed up


No, you're good. I'm busy this week and leave on Saturday so don't want to take on more games than I already have on my plate.

Smug, I will gladly drop if someone else wants in and you were planning on running it this week or next.
 
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I'll ping Javal a GM to find out when he was hoping for it to run and work from there.
 
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I'm around and happy to play any time from now.
 
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Ser, I'm afraid I'll give you the boot and if we don't get back full by the time you're back, then please come back!
 
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Smugvid wrote:
Ser, I'm afraid I'll give you the boot and if we don't get back full by the time you're back, then please come back!


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Just playing. No worries.
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Boot me if you want to start before Tuesday!
 
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TFang wrote:
Boot me if you want to start before Tuesday!


I'll see how quickly we refill
 
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I want to try but I don't want TFang to be booted
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I'm probably not going to be able to play if this starts next week (unless the lynch was later otherwise I would miss every lynch :\).
 
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