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Australia just voted in favour of marriage equality, with a 61.6% YES vote!!! The people have spoken, and same-sex marriage will become legal by Christmas. This is wonderful for our country, and I just wanted to celebrate on here with all you lovely people. Haters, please refrain from any ugliness. This is a time to just let us have our moment LOVE HAS PREVAILED heartheartheart
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That's awesome! Congratulations, Australia!
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Interesting that many didn't want a vote of the general public, because they feared losing. Glad people proved themselves better.

Well, at least 61.6% did. Kind of a bummer that so many voted note.

But enough of me being a downer. Congratulations.
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birdsong703 wrote:
The people have spoken, and same-sex marriage will become legal by Christmas.


I thought this was basically just a non-binding survey, how is it now becoming legal?
 
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LolaGranola wrote:
birdsong703 wrote:
The people have spoken, and same-sex marriage will become legal by Christmas.


I thought this was basically just a non-binding survey, how is it now becoming legal?


It was non-binding, but there's a bill ready to go, and Prime Minister Turnbull has announced he will pass it through the parliament by Christmas. Turnbull himself is pro-marriage equality, but he went the stupid postal survey route to appease the far right of his party. The LGBTIQ community didn't want it that way, since there were already the numbers in the parliament to pass it into law without spending $126 million on a pseudo-referendum, but we put everything into the YES campaign anyway, and now the momentum is unstoppable.
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Happily voted Yes, and am very happy with the result. Now the Government has to show some spine and follow through on it’s promise without giving in to the right-wing loonies of its party.
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Good on ya, mate! [said in my best Australian accent]
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Yeah, this is good to see. Screw Tony Abbott.
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I don't think the question went far enough.

As same-sex marriage is about expressing love, surely this should have been extended to same-sex sibling marriage?

 
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da pyrate wrote:
I don't think the question went far enough.

As same-sex marriage is about expressing love, surely this should have been extended to same-sex sibling marriage?



/yawn. It's not like we never heard that stuff before. You forgot hamsters.

Well done, Aussies!
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da pyrate wrote:
I don't think the question went far enough.

As same-sex marriage is about expressing love, surely this should have been extended to same-sex sibling marriage?



Hey, we can dream! Vote Lannister in 2018!
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*sigh* The bigots are out of the closet, and already comparing homosexuality to incest and bestiality. All I can say is go back to the 20th century, and let us get on with the 21st.

LOVE WINS.
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Yeah, this is good to see. Screw Tony Abbott.

Abbot's electorate voted 75% in favour of same-sex marriage. :)
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da pyrate wrote:
I don't think the question went far enough.

As same-sex marriage is about expressing love, surely this should have been extended to same-sex sibling marriage?

David, if that's what you're into, I'm not going to judge. Port Macquarie is a bit different to Sydney, but I'm going to celebrate your marriage to your brother. When's the big day?
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Very proud of my hometown of Canberra, highest yes result of any state (and one of the highest turnouts too).
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Finally some good news!
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birdsong703 wrote:
Australia just voted in favour of marriage equality, with a 61.6% YES vote!!! The people have spoken, and same-sex marriage will become legal by Christmas. This is wonderful for our country, and I just wanted to celebrate on here with all you lovely people. Haters, please refrain from any ugliness. This is a time to just let us have our moment LOVE HAS PREVAILED heartheartheart


This is just fucking refreshing. The world has been sprinting backwards the past couple years and it's nice to see a step forward. Congratulations.
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da pyrate wrote:
I don't think the question went far enough.

As same-sex marriage is about expressing love, surely this should have been extended to same-sex sibling marriage?



I thought that was the christian right in Alabama but they marry their sister who happens to be their mother?
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I am very happy that Australia now also has equal marriage rights.

What still remains very sad about this whole affair though is that there are still so-called democracies who believe that human rights are something to be voted about. Human rights should never ever be put to the vote. As soon as it becomes clear in a society that a certain group has less rights then another group, this group will be granted those rights in a democracy. If you vote on human rights in your country, then your country is not a true democracy.
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Fascinating results.

An entirely voluntary poll that saw responses from a full 80% of electors.

And of course the basic question was interestingly worded too; not simply "should same sex marriage be permitted / legal / whatever?" but "should the law be changed to allow same-sex couples to marry?"

The ABS has released some basic statistical results, but notably not the one I'm most interested in - response (yes/no) by age. There was a fair bit of talk about a population divide by age (basically presented as the young and trendy being for, and the old and conservative being against). I'd like to see if that was the case (I suspect it wasn't).
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mag74b wrote:
I am very happy that Australia now also has equal marriage rights.


Not quite yet. It still has to get through Parliament. It will (in some form or another) - estimates are now that around 75% of MPs are in favour or will follow the national vote, but there will be bickering and pontificating about the actual form of the legislation (the whole 'gay wedding cake' thing is about to play our here again!).

It should be legislated by Christmas, at least, that's what the PM and senior government figures have promised.

mag74b wrote:

What still remains very sad about this whole affair though is that there are still so-called democracies who believe that human rights are something to be voted about. Human rights should never ever be put to the vote. As soon as it becomes clear in a society that a certain group has less rights then another group, this group will be granted those rights in a democracy. If you vote on human rights in your country, then your country is not a true democracy.


Couldn't agree more here. That's why most of the 'yes' campaigners were opposed to the vote - not because they thought they would lose (polls have been showing this level of support for yes for years), but because of the principle, the hurt and mental distress caused to so many LGBTI Australians having their rights debated and voted on by other people, and the fact that it is completely unnecessary - it's within the power of Parliament under the constitution to change the law without a national vote.

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The ABS has released some basic statistical results, but notably not the one I'm most interested in - response (yes/no) by age. There was a fair bit of talk about a population divide by age (basically presented as the young and trendy being for, and the old and conservative being against). I'd like to see if that was the case (I suspect it wasn't).


They haven't recorded demographic information against 'yes/no', just participation, so that breakdown will never be known. They said that they separated the barcode (which identified the respondent) from the yes/no part of the form as the first part of the processing, so they couldn't link it in that way - on purpose.
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They haven't recorded demographic information against 'yes/no', just participation, so that breakdown will never be known. They said that they separated the barcode (which identified the respondent) from the yes/no part of the form as the first part of the processing, so they couldn't link it in that way - on purpose.


Then how did they retain the link to electorate for yes/no stats?
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The parliament has to approve the change - I worry that will be ugly.

There's at least one bill festering in the nether parts of the "Christian" conservative bloc which is supposed to "protect freedom of belief": by permitting people to refuse goods and services to single sex marriages. "Oh no, I won't drive your limo because..."

Phobic f-

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The important thing right now is to look after anyone who has been harmed by the bile produced by the "No" campaign.

And plan the party for when it goes through
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I took the point of the non-binding postal vote to be an expensive gamble exactly this would happen. It undercuts the ability of those opposed to act against the measure which is now promised. It was potentially a bad political gamble but it worked and so ends up being good.
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