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So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?
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Did you play competing against other players? It looks like totally missed the tactics of choosing where to draft from.
 
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So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?


Lots of gamers like beautiful abstract games that are mid weight and short to play. Not everyone likes every game. Its clearly not for you.
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richiebabes wrote:
So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?


You probably aren't missing anything. You just didn't enjoy it. I find the decision making very fun and tense, but it sounds like that's not your cup of tea.
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I enjoyed it, but it seems very much a Kiesling game of everybody performing basically the same dance steps and trying to figure out how to mess up other players without breaking their own stride. I can imagine that being dull if some people are making bad choices (then it's too easy for the players they should be interfering with).
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Well, based on richiebabys other ratings... I can't really tell anything.

I just got Azul in the mail today and am looking forward to playing it, so I clicked through to see why you thought it was hype-bait. What about the game fell flat for you? Why did you think the strategy was so thin? Why did you find it dull? Compared to what? What kind of game do you like? I'm curious to know.

Then (and I'm being serious here and not trying to be snarky or condescending (I hope)), write all that down as a comment for Azul and rate the game accordingly, to help steer other similarly minded gamers away from what could be a potential dud for them.

The good news is, you'll probably make someone very happy with a trade!

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Adverb wrote:
Well, based on richiebabys other ratings... I can't really tell anything.
 
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Well, based on richiebabys other ratings... I can't really tell anything.


I never rate things, or haven't done for years.

I was just wondering what I am missing. I guess it's just not a game for me. You're just selecting tiles, putting them on your thing and moving them over to score. It's a puzzle but not a very exciting one.
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richiebabes wrote:
It's a puzzle but not a very exciting one.


Agree to disagree.
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You're entitled to. Sorry if I offended anyone by not liking a game you like. I was just asking why people like it so much.
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richiebabes wrote:
You're entitled to. Sorry if I offended anyone by not liking a game you like. I was just asking why people like it so much.


Maybe don't lead with things like, "There's nothing to this game" and "It's as dull as anything" if you want legitimate feedback.
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You're entitled to. Sorry if I offended anyone by not liking a game you like. I was just asking why people like it so much.


No don't apologise. you don't have to like it. I quite like it but I don't love it persobally. I don't think you're missing anything.
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richiebabes wrote:
You're entitled to. Sorry if I offended anyone by not liking a game you like. I was just asking why people like it so much.


Maybe don't lead with things like, "There's nothing to this game" and "It's as dull as anything" if you want legitimate feedback.


Why not? What's wrong with an opinion?
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richiebabes wrote:
So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?



Tact? Respect for the people that do like it? A little understanding regarding hype and reality? Could go on for a while...

...C'mon, you literally asked the question.

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richiebabes wrote:
So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?



Tact? Respect for the people that do like it? A little understanding regarding hype and reality?

...C'mon, you literally asked the question. ;)



Good grief. It's an opinion. Give me the benefit of the doubt. I bought the game and feel like I've wasted my money and am hoping I can get inspiration from someone who says why it's a good game after all.
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Did you watch any game play videos or read the rules before purchasing? I know not everyone does this or cares to, but I find the more time I put into a decision before I purchase, the less I feel like I've wasted any money. Still sometimes a game can be hit or miss, but at least I know what I'm getting myself into.
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I tried this at PAX. I thought it was okay. I think a certain amount of its buzz is due to its top-notch production. While it's not exactly my cup of tea (I have other short, light-medium abstractish Euros I enjoy more), I found it thoroughly unobjectionable and would not decline a game. In fact, I'd probably prefer this over several popular gateway games.
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Did you watch any game play videos or read the rules before purchasing? I know not everyone does this or cares to, but I find the more time I put into a decision before I purchase, the less I feel like I've wasted any money. Still sometimes a game can be hit or miss, but at least I know what I'm getting myself into.


Yes I watched a couple of videos and had a good feeling about it when I bought it and was excited to get it. And then I played it and thought "oh, is that it?"
 
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did you win the game you played ? Did you pay attention what others where doing ? did you got end game points like completing a vertical line ( or multiple ones)or complete all tiles of one colour ?

I do think there is more to the game like you claim quote You're just selecting tiles, putting them on your thing and moving them over to score.

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richiebabes wrote:
So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?


Yes, it is a puzzle game. If you like puzzle games, I would suggest trying again with 2 and also 4 players. My first game I just played to see how it worked knowing there was more to it than just multiplayer solitaire.

The second game I saw the need to maximise what I required without allowing good collections of tiles that favoured the other players.

Like another person wrote recently, like a game of chess you are going to mess up the other’s moves knowing they will mess up yours. I find this fun because it’s back and forth. It’s not like when someone messes up your game completely in one move that you can’t recover from.

Hope this helps. If not, I guess it was never for you. Also, simple rules in simple abstracts lead to not a lot of depth but usually some great gameplay.

Have fun.

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This newest review from "Shut Up & Sit Down" is both appropriate and informative. It's the answers you seek.


https://boardgamegeek.com/video/158549/azul/shut-sit-down-re...

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Haha! He's hilarious!
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Question:
richiebabes wrote:
So after all the hype I bought this game and went through the rules and played a game. And. Um. What's the big deal? There's nothing to this game. It's as dull as anything. What am I missing?


Answer: https://www.boardgamegeek.com/video/158549/azul/shut-sit-dow...


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richiebabes wrote:
I never rate things, or haven't done for years.

I was just wondering what I am missing. I guess it's just not a game for me. You're just selecting tiles, putting them on your thing and moving them over to score. It's a puzzle but not a very exciting one.

That's fair (although for me comments are more useful than ratings). However, an empty history does make it difficult/impossible to have a quick thumbnail sense of you as a gamer, your likes and dislikes, or to be able to carry on a conversation (edit: or an informed conversation) about why any given game would be a hit or miss for you.

Like I said, though, Azul will be good trade fodder for you. Probably. Hard to tell for sure!

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I don't understand the hype about India Pale Ales. How could anybody possibly like them? WAAAYYYY too bitter.....especially the current trendy small brewers take on them.
I like my beers to actually taste good, not leave me feeling like I'm chewing a mouthful of hops.
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