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The wording of the rules is fairly clear is saying you "Take into hand as many barrels (from your shipping region) as demanded by the target refinery's demand chip, but one of the players saw something in the notes and clarifications that led them to believe you could in fact attempt to ship just one or two barrels to a refinery, even if it's demand is 4. Help?
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Demand is the upper limit you can deliver, the max the refinery will buy from you. You can also deliver less than that (and frequently you have no choice but to deliver less, with supply being low or with pirates taking a barrel from your delivery).
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Thanks for clarifying, we played that wrong in our first game last night.
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Thank you very much! I you reprint, I would perhaps suggest changing the wording slightly to "Take up to as many Barrels as in demand at the target refinery into hand" which would have clarified this for my group, I think!

Thank you very much for the quick reply!
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esarge wrote:
Thank you very much! I you reprint, I would perhaps suggest changing the wording slightly to "Take up to as many Barrels as in demand at the target refinery into hand" which would have clarified this for my group, I think!

Thank you very much for the quick reply!

Only problem with that is the sequence they outline is:
0. (use Security chips)
1. Deal with ? barrels - pull from bag, first black goes to black market, rest will go back in.
2. PICK UP barrels.
3. Deal with piracy symbols - more to the BM.
4. Deliver up to the demand of the port to your HQ, return the excess to the region.

I've stated it a little differently than the rules, in that the unclear part about can you take less than the demand. I'm sure you can take both more and less depending on the situation.
 
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NickDanger42 wrote:
esarge wrote:
Thank you very much! I you reprint, I would perhaps suggest changing the wording slightly to "Take up to as many Barrels as in demand at the target refinery into hand" which would have clarified this for my group, I think!

Thank you very much for the quick reply!

Only problem with that is the sequence they outline is:
0. (use Security chips)
1. Deal with ? barrels - pull from bag, first black goes to black market, rest will go back in.
2. PICK UP barrels.
3. Deal with piracy symbols - more to the BM.
4. Deliver up to the demand of the port to your HQ, return the excess to the region.

I've stated it a little differently than the rules, in that the unclear part about can you take less than the demand. I'm sure you can take both more and less depending on the situation.

The timing has no impact on the number of Barrels you may take. Esarge has it right.

In what you label step 2, you may take up to (and never more) as many Barrels as in Demand at the target Refinery from the shipping Region into hand. Of those you satisfy the Black Market. Whatever remains in your hand after that goes to your HQ. This may be less than the Demand at the target Refinery, either because there were too few Barrels in the shipping Region, or because you lost some to the Pirates. Since you may never pick up more Barrels than the Demand in the target Refinery, there will never be any 'excess' to return to the shipping Region.

Also note that you may use Security chips at any time during your turn, not only at the start of Shipping.
 
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