In this special cross-over episode with Games in Schools and Libraries, Don and Kathleen Mercury talk with Geoffrey Englestein from the Ludology podcast and many games designs about games they've played/designed lately.
(26:43) Next, the trio talk about computational thinking and game design.
I love the part about trying to help middle-schoolers feel like their game designs have been successful. I especially appreciated the comment about enabling them to take the lessons they learned in the process of making a game forward into whatever else they do. That's a great lesson for all of us.