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I missed the KS, but picked up the minis in a fit of pique (and they are great sculpts, matching the art flawlessly).

Are there character cards for these two or...
 
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Yes.

You can see them on the right side of the second row from the top here:

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You can also buy their character cards, equipment, and skills here, but they are currently sold out: https://goblinkomegamall.com/collections/dungeon-degenerates
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orkboi wrote:
You can also buy their character cards, equipment, and skills here, but they are currently sold out: https://goblinkomegamall.com/collections/dungeon-degenerates


Actually as far as I know Infamous Butcher and Angel of Death are not included in Character Pack Bundle. Those two were KS exclusives.
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Actually as far as I know Infamous Butcher and Angel of Death are not included in Character Pack Bundle. Those two were KS exclusives.

Yeah, I have the character pack bundle, & they're not in it.
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The cards for these two were kickstarter exclusives and are not included in the adventurer expansion now that we are in post-kickstarter times.

The adventurer expansion is being reprinted now so we will have more soon, but they will not include these characters.
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Oooh bummer.

If anyone who got the KS ones want to trade for a wooden lasercut insert, let me know.

(I'm working on it over the weekend, and I'll post the files here when I'm happy with it. I'm kind of basing it on the foamcore one, with a few changes here and there.)

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Hi Eric,

Any chance for a “print and play” option for non kickstarters?
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A print and play version would be awesome
 
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Would also love a PNP if possible!
 
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Nth-ing the PNP request!
 
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Hopefully you guys don't try to expand the idea of exclusive this way with your significant others!
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Sean Aaberg wrote:
Hopefully you guys don't try to expand the idea of exclusive this way with your significant others!

Well, in this case, it'd be about other people's significant others.

"I know you said you're in an exclusive relationship, I get that. But... any chance for a "print and play" photograph option for people who aren't your spouse?"
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tumorous wrote:
Sean Aaberg wrote:
Hopefully you guys don't try to expand the idea of exclusive this way with your significant others!

Well, in this case, it'd be about other people's significant others.

"I know you said you're in an exclusive relationship, I get that. But... any chance for a "print and play" photograph option for people who aren't your spouse?"


Well, since you asked so nice....
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Hopefully you guys don't try to expand the idea of exclusive this way with your significant others!

Honestly, I kickstarted - got everything bar the minis - and I have no problem with the Butcher and the Angel being sold separately. I got them first, and I got them for free, and that was awesome. But I love this game and I think others should get to enjoy it every bit as much as I do. With all the bells and whistles.
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We have had a lot of people email to ask us how they can get the Infamous Butcher and Angel of Death playable adventurers for Dungeon Degenerates. The short answer is: you can’t. These were offered up as Kickstarter exclusives, and were only available to our Kickstarter backers. We feel for our fans who discovered the game after the Kickstarter campaign and cannot get these playable characters, but that’s how limited edition runs and exclusive items work!
The good news is, now you know for the future! Follow Dungeon Degenerates on Facebook or Instagram, or subscribe to our email updates so you will be ready when we launch our next Kickstarter, which will feature all-new Dungeon Degenerates content and YES there will be a Kickstarter exclusive item again this time!
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Sean Aaberg wrote:
We have had a lot of people email to ask us how they can get the Infamous Butcher and Angel of Death playable adventurers for Dungeon Degenerates. The short answer is: you can’t. These were offered up as Kickstarter exclusives, and were only available to our Kickstarter backers. We feel for our fans who discovered the game after the Kickstarter campaign and cannot get these playable characters, but that’s how limited edition runs and exclusive items work!


Some KS projects get around a first-edition "KS exclusive" by offering the exclusives in subsequent KS projects. i.e. if there's a 2nd DD KS then you could "rightfully"[^1] re-release those exclusives because you originally said they were "KS exclusive", not "exclusive to this KS".

Gamelyn Games does that all the time - you can buy KS-exclusive editions of many of their games in the Pledge Manager of any of their subsequent games.


[1] = "rightfully" meaning that backers of the first KS has no room to complain about it. (FWIW, i think exclusiveness is silly: it simply divides the community into haves and have-nots, exactly as we're seeing here.)
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sgbeal wrote:
Sean Aaberg wrote:
We have had a lot of people email to ask us how they can get the Infamous Butcher and Angel of Death playable adventurers for Dungeon Degenerates. The short answer is: you can’t. These were offered up as Kickstarter exclusives, and were only available to our Kickstarter backers. We feel for our fans who discovered the game after the Kickstarter campaign and cannot get these playable characters, but that’s how limited edition runs and exclusive items work!


Some KS projects get around a first-edition "KS exclusive" by offering the exclusives in subsequent KS projects. i.e. if there's a 2nd DD KS then you could "rightfully"[^1] re-release those exclusives because you originally said they were "KS exclusive", not "exclusive to this KS".

Gamelyn Games does that all the time - you can buy KS-exclusive editions of many of their games in the Pledge Manager of any of their subsequent games.


[1] = "rightfully" meaning that backers of the first KS has no room to complain about it. (FWIW, i think exclusiveness is silly: it simply divides the community into haves and have-nots, exactly as we're seeing here.)

Yeah, but these guys seem a little less into bullshit than that.
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Yeah, but these guys seem a little less into bullshit than that.


There's no BS about it, it's 100% in line with their original claim. There's no "creative bending" of terminology there, and anyone who's seen it happen in other KS's will certainly have seen (maybe even hoping for) it coming as an option for this one.

Every game i follow which has game-content exclusives has the same problem: a wedge is driven right down the middle of the community between the original backers (most of whom got the exclusives) and retail customers (none of whom did). Where's the fun in that, when half of the people in the forum are effectively playing a different game? In DD this chasm isn't so big - it's only a couple characters. In Galaxy Defenders and Sword & Sorcery that gap is much bigger, as they have a whole slew of exclusive characters.

IMO game-modifying exclusives are, quite frankly, poor taste. Out-of-game exclusives (t-shirts, beer mugs, whatever) - no problem.
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sgbeal wrote:
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Yeah, but these guys seem a little less into bullshit than that.


There's no BS about it, it's 100% in line with their original claim. There's no "creative bending" of terminology there, and anyone who's seen it happen in other KS's will certainly have seen (maybe even hoping for) it coming as an option for this one.

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tumorous wrote:


Well, in that case... sucks being someone who didn't get them the first time around.
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Yeah. I broadly agree with you about Kickstarter exclusives. I'm not saying I like it, but I can fully understand sticking to their guns on this.
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Oh you can buy them. Just not through the Megamall channels, i.e. look to the Black Market.

They will cost you PLENTY. Just like any cherished KS exclusives. These may be the most coveted of all.
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Oh you can buy them. Just not through the Megamall channels, i.e. look to the Black Market.

They will cost you PLENTY. Just like any cherished KS exclusives. These may be the most coveted of all.

Hmmm do I need to hit the dark web for this "Black Market"? Because I'm not seeing any sales of these in the typical secondhand locales (eBay, BGG).
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tumorous wrote:
patrickstockton wrote:
Oh you can buy them. Just not through the Megamall channels, i.e. look to the Black Market.

They will cost you PLENTY. Just like any cherished KS exclusives. These may be the most coveted of all.

Hmmm do I need to hit the dark web for this "Black Market"? Because I'm not seeing any sales of these in the typical secondhand locales (eBay, BGG).


You mean... nobody told you?

Come on guys, why did nobody tell him? Don't make me do it - Rusty's far better at this type of thing.
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