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Happy New Year! We have some big news to kick off 2018. We're thrilled to announce the launch of three new board gaming imprints: Starling Games, Sparkworks, and Flying Meeple!

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PSA: These are the companies to stay away from.
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Zlarp wrote:
PSA: These are the companies to stay away from.


Yup, it's the old shell game with them.

Yarrington had better make good with Eklund/SMG over the most recent egregious shipping SNAFU, or I'd think they'd sink faster than the Titanic.
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Eh, I'd still take these guys over VPG and Alan Emerich any day
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Eh, I'd still take these guys over VPG and Alan Emerich any day


VPG is also on my "never buy from" list.
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Victory Point Games? What's up with them? I enjoy Healthy Heart Hospital and I've been considering exploring their other titles.
 
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Victory Point Games? What's up with them? I enjoy Healthy Heart Hospital and I've been considering exploring their other titles.


Did a quick search and found this for you. There’s a few other ones it seems but reading through them quickly, it looks like they all touch on the same major things.
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Steve Carey wrote:
Zlarp wrote:
PSA: These are the companies to stay away from.


Yup, it's the old shell game with them.

Yarrington had better make good with Eklund/SMG over the most recent egregious shipping SNAFU, or I'd think they'd sink faster than the Titanic.


100% agreed.
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Rathje wrote:
Victory Point Games? What's up with them?


Imagine if Lance Armstrong ran a company here in the hobby, that should provide an analogous example.
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Rathje wrote:
Victory Point Games? What's up with them?


Imagine if Lance Armstrong ran a company here in the hobby, that should provide an analogous example.


They only employ people with one testicle, have won numerous Tour De Frances, and enjoy doping?
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Does this mean 3 times as many Kickstarters?
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dice roll wrote:
Does this mean 3 times as many Kickstarters?

more games without game boxes? i hope not. Did this lawsuit ever get settled?
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/57587/zev-shlasinger-suin...

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Rugbydave wrote:
Eh, I'd still take these guys over VPG and Alan Emerich any day

You're comparing a shady fulfillment company that allegedly has screwed people out of thousands of dollars to someone who was possibly rude and hard to work with?

Did I miss something? Genuinely curious.
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Did I miss something? Genuinely curious.


Lots of behind-the-scenes shenanigans Dan, not worth discussing the details in a public forum.

Again, think Lance Armstrong...
 
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dice roll wrote:
Does this mean 3 times as many Kickstarters?

more games without game boxes? i hope not. Did this lawsuit ever get settled?
https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/57587/zev-shlasinger-suin...



Yes, they were found guilty of breach of contract and fined 0 dollars.
 
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I've gotten lots of things from shipnaked never had a problem other than my wife going "What the heck did you buy??"
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Rugbydave wrote:
Rathje wrote:
Victory Point Games? What's up with them? I enjoy Healthy Heart Hospital and I've been considering exploring their other titles.


Did a quick search and found this for you. There’s a few other ones it seems but reading through them quickly, it looks like they all touch on the same major things.


And here's what I hope is the most damning link (BGG thread) in there.

Wow... And it's not even like he was just in a bad mood that time and later recognized his mistake. He doubled down on it months later, still completely convinced he's right. O_o
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Steve Carey wrote:
Zlarp wrote:
PSA: These are the companies to stay away from.


Yup, it's the old shell game with them.

Yarrington had better make good with Eklund/SMG over the most recent egregious shipping SNAFU, or I'd think they'd sink faster than the Titanic.


Is there a way to tag these new publishers on BGG so game pages will display "Game Salute" when I look at anything they're associated with? That way I don't need to keep a mental list of all the subsidiaries to avoid. It would be nice to thwart their shell company game...
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Frankly, I don't see that Alan Emrich did anything wrong there. He gave a point-by-point rebuttal and there aren't any personal attacks. What's the issue?
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Frankly, I don't see that Alan Emrich did anything wrong there. He gave a point-by-point rebuttal and there aren't any personal attacks. What's the issue?


If you have to give massive point-by-point rebuttals to volunteer playtesters: then you're a bad designer.

If you have to give massive point-by-point replies to replies, months later, trying in vain to defend whatever imagined transgressions against you, attempt dig up dirt on random people trying to help you, brag how well a game sold, then create multiple shell accounts on bgg and reddit in support of you: then you shouldn't be in control of a company and never allowed near a computer.
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If you have to give massive point-by-point replies to replies, months later, trying in vain to defend whatever imagined transgressions against you, attempt dig up dirt on random people trying to help you, brag how well a game sold, then create multiple shell accounts on bgg and reddit in support of you: then you shouldn't be in control of a company and never allowed near a computer.


Yup, this is so typical - you wouldn't believe some of the childish, petty vindictive things he did to me when I severed ties.

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You wouldn't feel like sharing? Cause, you know, I'm always up for some sensationalist voyeurism. I'm base like that.
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Flamin_Jesus wrote:
You wouldn't feel like sharing?


Not really, while it's great to share information so that others can make more informed choices, this thread has been hijacked enough already.
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I've published games with both of these companies. Working with Alan was fine, working with Dann May and GS has been great so far.
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