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Filippos T.
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I just bought the Core game plus the OOTD expansion and since i noticed that the game has quite a number of erratas i wanted to make sure i got everything right.So here are my 2 questions:
1. I read somewhere that the entrance card of the core game should not include the option to purchase elder signs is this true?
2. Playing only with core game you must spend an entire action to buy stuff at the entrance but in the different Omens expansions that is not true, you can buy stuff even if you fail/pass an adventure at the start of your clock phase?
 
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1. You can purchase elder signs at the entrance. Some people house rule this out because they either feel the game is too easy or that buying signs is anticlimactic. If you buy the Unseen Forces expansion though, then you get a new entrance where the ability of buying elder signs has been effectively replaced by the option of buying blessings.

2. Omens basically change (replace) large portions of the vanilla games completely, including the way the entrance works.
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Hi and welcome

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1. I read somewhere that the entrance card of the core game should not include the option to purchase elder signs is this true?


Nope. Not being able to purchase Elder Sign at the Entrance when playing with the core game (in OotD that Entrance is not used) is just a suggested houserule to make the game a bit more difficult (after a few plays, you'll see how the core set plots on the easier side of the spectrum)

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2. Playing only with core game you must spend an entire action to buy stuff at the entrance but in the different Omens expansions that is not true, you can buy stuff even if you fail/pass an adventure at the start of your clock phase?


The timing and ways to use the Entrance are expansion-related. In the core game you need to spend your Resolution Phase on the Entrance to resolve any of its effects, while in the Omens series you need to be on the Entrance at the beginning of the clock phase. Also please note that while in the core game you can buy stuff only for yourself, in the Omens series you can buy stuff for ANY investigator in the game (thus, yourself or any one of your buddies).

Also please note that if you fail an adventure, you cannot be on the Entrance at the beginning of the clock phase: once you fail an adventure, you stay there until the beginning of your next Movement Phase
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Wow thanks so much both of you for your light speed replies .. I have not played the game yet so i guess i will figure out more stuff on the process.
Thanks a lot again
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Just one more thing i came up with...Is it normal for adventure cards to have the "add doom symbol" on their reward box?
 
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Of course. We don't judge.
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k00l wrote:
Just one more thing i came up with...Is it normal for adventure cards to have the "add doom symbol" on their reward box?


Some of these (if not all) received an errata. Could you post a list, so that I can cross-check?
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Scarlet Witch wrote:
k00l wrote:
Just one more thing i came up with...Is it normal for adventure cards to have the "add doom symbol" on their reward box?


Some of these (if not all) received an errata. Could you post a list, so that I can cross-check?


Ok, I just checked on my db of cards. There are no cards in the core set providing doom as reward, so, disregard those symbols when playing
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Scarlet Witch wrote:
Scarlet Witch wrote:
k00l wrote:
Just one more thing i came up with...Is it normal for adventure cards to have the "add doom symbol" on their reward box?


Some of these (if not all) received an errata. Could you post a list, so that I can cross-check?


Ok, I just checked on my db of cards. There are no cards in the core set providing doom as reward, so, disregard those symbols when playing


There certainly are in the app version. Lots of painful differences. We love it.
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The Elder Sign adventure card has a doom symbol as a reward

Also many Other World Adventure cards have it Plateu of Leng, The Abyss etc.

Now should i just ignore it? or instead treat as a remove doom symbol?

I ask this because in the app version of the game these cards do remove doom.

Also i take it that the errata was applied for some time now..pity that the version i just bought today does not have them as they should be..
 
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The game does not need anything that makes it easier. Play the cards as shown, if it shows a Doom reward, add a doom token.

As the rules used to say, sometimes bad things happen to good people.
 
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k00l wrote:
The Elder Sign adventure card has a doom symbol as a reward

Also many Other World Adventure cards have it Plateu of Leng, The Abyss etc.

Now should i just ignore it? or instead treat as a remove doom symbol?

I ask this because in the app version of the game these cards do remove doom.

Also i take it that the errata was applied for some time now..pity that the version i just bought today does not have them as they should be..


Those cards received a Errata, if you bought Unseen Forces those cards would be there in the new version.
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As Fernando said. Please guys post only if you know the correct answer otherwise you'll just add to the new user's confusion
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Scarlet Witch wrote:
k00l wrote:
Just one more thing i came up with...Is it normal for adventure cards to have the "add doom symbol" on their reward box?


Some of these (if not all) received an errata. Could you post a list, so that I can cross-check?
There is no any mentions of errata with just base game (no any official documents exists). In my opinion you must change those cards only if you have Unseen Forces, its some sort of a balance tweek, if you play with UF. If you have just base game - play it as writen in the rules, so, doom token reward is a doom token reward.
 
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Daimond wrote:
There is no any mentions of errata with just base game (no any official documents exists). In my opinion you must change those cards only if you have Unseen Forces, its some sort of a balance tweek, if you play with UF. If you have just base game - play it as writen in the rules, so, doom token reward is a doom token reward.


This keeps coming up from time to time. By the same logic, you should still play with doom rewarding OWs when you play with Gates, Alaska, Pacific Ocean or Egypt, and I can assure you that none of these games has been balanced or tested with OWs offering extra doomers as reward.

I think this was also asked to Dane and we got it official (i.e. always use replacements); however, if there's a disagreement on the matter, I can ask Dane again and then share the answer with the community
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Scarlet Witch wrote:
Daimond wrote:
There is no any mentions of errata with just base game (no any official documents exists). In my opinion you must change those cards only if you have Unseen Forces, its some sort of a balance tweek, if you play with UF. If you have just base game - play it as writen in the rules, so, doom token reward is a doom token reward.


This keeps coming up from time to time. By the same logic, you should still play with doom rewarding OWs when you play with Gates, Alaska, Pacific Ocean or Egypt, and I can assure you that none of these games has been balanced or tested with OWs offering extra doomers as reward.

I think this was also asked to Dane and we got it official (i.e. always use replacements); however, if there's a disagreement on the matter, I can ask Dane again and then share the answer with the community
This will be really good, Julia, and clear that thing up.Thx again for you support for this game, you are worried about it much more then FFG itself, you are just great.
 
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Gimme a few days of break (celebrating being Geek of the Week and I have a rulebook to edit due to Saturday), then I'll mail Dane and investigate on the whole replacement issue
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Answer gotten and posted (for greater visibility) here
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UnknownParkerBrother wrote:
The game does not need anything that makes it easier. Play the cards as shown, if it shows a Doom reward, add a doom token.

As the rules used to say, sometimes bad things happen to good people.


Yes! The game is easy if you make it easy.

 
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