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Jeremy Avery
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My copy arrived a few days ago, and when I cracked the shrink and held the box, it felt very strange. Almost a bit washed out, and the surface didn't feel "right". I've handed hundreds of board games and never held one that felt like...paper? Construction paper? Something weird and not like a normal board game surface?
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How does smell inside ?
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I know that Amazon was selling counterfeit copies of Dominion. Not sure about Roll for the Galaxy.
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My copy is one of the few games I own that isn't at all glossy - the box, tiles, and chits are all matte. Same goes for the expansion. Hope that's all that's going on with your game.
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IIRC the tiles have a linen finish. Very similar to any other board game.
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Roll has a linen cover with a matte, not gloss, finish.

Essentially, you have 2 variables: linen vs smooth paper and matte vs gloss finish.

Linen paper can also be very fine or a more coarse (textured) "weave".

Finally, a "high-gloss" finish is typically done on a 6-roller printing press with the final roller being used to apply a second coat of varnish.

(Usually, there are 6 rollers on a large 4-color offset press used for the 4 CYMK colors, plus varnish, plus either a spot color (such as a metallic ink or a florescent color, which are hard to do via 4-color printing) or a half-screen extra printing of black if large black sections are being printed (to prevent little white dots or uneven areas if the black offset negative gets dirty or clogged during printing) or extra varnish or nothing.)
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Tom Lehmann wrote:
Roll has a linen cover with a matte, not gloss, finish.

Essentially, you have 2 variables: linen vs smooth paper and matte vs gloss finish.

Linen paper can also be very fine or a more coarse (textured) "weave".

Finally, a "high-gloss" finish is typically done on a 6-roller printing press with the final roller being used to apply a second coat of varnish.

(Usually, there are 6 rollers on a large 4-color offset press used for the 4 CYMK colors, plus varnish, plus either a spot color (such as a metallic ink or a florescent color, which are hard to do via 4-color printing) or a half-screen extra printing of black if large black sections are being printed (to prevent little white dots or uneven areas if the black offset negative gets dirty or clogged during printing) or extra varnish or nothing.)


I think I see the linen weave on the cover and the tiles. It just feels strange to my fingertips. And the front and back page of the rulebook has a slight smudged-text look. Some of the tiles didn't punch exactly cleanly either. I just wondered if, together, these might indicate a counterfeit copy. But it does sound like I have the same (strange?) box as the rest of you.
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familygaming wrote:

I think I see the linen weave on the cover and the tiles. It just feels strange to my fingertips. And the front and back page of the rulebook has a slight smudged-text look. Some of the tiles didn't punch exactly cleanly either. I just wondered if, together, these might indicate a counterfeit copy. But it does sound like I have the same (strange?) box as the rest of you.


Maybe we ALL have counterfeit copies. ;-)

Roll seems like a very difficult game to counterfeit on a cost-effective basis. You'd have to get your own custom dice-casting (getting a whole bunch of custom colors) and printing (getting all those symbols on the dice), and you'd have to cast your own molds for the dice cups. It seems like if you were able to get those to work, there'd be little incentive to be cheap on the tiles.
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It does not sound at all like mine, which I bought from a games specialist.

My box is solid. All the printing is good quality - no blurring anywhere. The beakers are solid as well, even if they are plastic they are good quality.

Personally, I'd be thinking of returning your item and getting a refund.
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onigame wrote:
familygaming wrote:

I think I see the linen weave on the cover and the tiles. It just feels strange to my fingertips. And the front and back page of the rulebook has a slight smudged-text look. Some of the tiles didn't punch exactly cleanly either. I just wondered if, together, these might indicate a counterfeit copy. But it does sound like I have the same (strange?) box as the rest of you.


Maybe we ALL have counterfeit copies. ;-)

Roll seems like a very difficult game to counterfeit on a cost-effective basis. You'd have to get your own custom dice-casting (getting a whole bunch of custom colors) and printing (getting all those symbols on the dice), and you'd have to cast your own molds for the dice cups. It seems like if you were able to get those to work, there'd be little incentive to be cheap on the tiles.


I thought the same thing, but apparently counterfeit games are indeed appearing. Especially from 3rd party sellers on Amazon.
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Asmor wrote:
onigame wrote:
familygaming wrote:

I think I see the linen weave on the cover and the tiles. It just feels strange to my fingertips. And the front and back page of the rulebook has a slight smudged-text look. Some of the tiles didn't punch exactly cleanly either. I just wondered if, together, these might indicate a counterfeit copy. But it does sound like I have the same (strange?) box as the rest of you.


Maybe we ALL have counterfeit copies. ;-)

Roll seems like a very difficult game to counterfeit on a cost-effective basis. You'd have to get your own custom dice-casting (getting a whole bunch of custom colors) and printing (getting all those symbols on the dice), and you'd have to cast your own molds for the dice cups. It seems like if you were able to get those to work, there'd be little incentive to be cheap on the tiles.


I thought the same thing, but apparently counterfeit games are indeed appearing. Especially from 3rd party sellers on Amazon.


I have to wonder about both sides of the coin presented here.

On one hand, they can try to undercut the MSRP. OTOH, I didn't know it was popular enough to attempt this, and as onigame mentioned, custom dice ain't straightforward to do.

FWIW, at least you guys get the "imitation is the most sincere form of flattery" achievement
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Tom and Wei-Hwa incorporated an advanced scent based anti-forgery detection system.
If you have a genuine copy, it will smell like an old library.
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gixxerscott wrote:
Tom and Wei-Hwa incorporated an advanced scent based anti-forgery detection system.
If you have a genuine copy, it will smell like an old library.



Mine smells like Nathan Lane’s sock drawer.
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