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Austin Walker
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So after playing through a bunch of games I think some of my favorite experiences ever have been Euro games. I've played a fair bit of RPGs, Social Deduction, Co-op, and dudes on a map, but the ones that keep me thinking about the game long after it's over are the Euros.

Good examples of games I own: Terra Mystica, Castles of Burgundy, Scythe, Mage Knight, Istanbul, El Grande. Yes, some of these are lighter and not as traditionally-Euro, but the commonalities are that they involve lots of planning ahead, and little direct conflict or "take that" mechanisms. Screwing over other players is more along the lines of blocking a strategy or controlling a resource.

What I'm looking for -

Player Count: 1-5. I have smaller groups, and don't want the games to drag too long between turns.

Play Time: Not so important. As long as the game flow is good and people are engaged, I can play all day!

Weight: Looking for bigger ones! I'm always intrigued by the bigger games that may not necessarily make the top 100, but are favorites among certain groups (like the Heavy Cardboard folks)

Theme: I like fantasy and history. I'm not a gigantic fan of sci-fi or politics. I can get over certain aesthetics if the game play is great, like when I thought I wouldn't like Castles of Burgundy but ended up loving it.

The no-brainers for me are likely the Uwe Rosenberg stuff, which I'm positive I'd enjoy, but a lot of my friends own Agricola/Caverna/A Feast for Odin so I plan on playing over there. I'm also here for suggestions that I haven't thought of yet, or may not get mentioned as often! Thanks much.
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Joshua Creguer
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Puerto Rico, Caylus, Troyes, Manhattan Project are a few suggestions.
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Justin Green
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Maybe check out some games by Vital Lacerda:

Kanban: Driver's Edition, The Gallerist, CO₂, Vinhos Deluxe Edition, Lisboa
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Looks like you are into some good games. I might recommend:

Alchemists - Great worker placement and deduction game that does a great job of integrating a smart phone app.
Clans of Caledonia - Along the lines of Terra Mystica but adds a stock and contract component.
Concordia - Great hand management/resource management game with a cool scoring mechanism based on the cards you acquire.
The Gallerist - Heavy worker placement and my intro to Vital Lacerda. A smooth engine of interlocking parts.
Keyflower - Bidding/worker placement that can veer into the meaner side of games I like to play but it's so good that doesn't matter.
Mombasa - Deck building/hand management/area control/stock market and more. It might seem like that's too much to cram into one game but it works.

Of course anything by Uwe Rosenberg, Vital Lacerda, Richard Breese, and Stefan Feld are worth exploring, especially some of the Uwe games you don't mention like Ora et Labora or Le Havre.

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Mike Frantz
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A bunch of really good suggestions already, let me throw out a few as well:

Lorenzo il Magnifico
Shipyard
La Granja
Village
Yokohama
Great Western Trail

Getting up to 5 players is a little harder:
Age of Steam
Indonesia
Concordia
Keyflower
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Phil Hendrickson
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Definitely look at Concordia. It goes to five players, and is excellent. Also maybe look at Rococo, which also plays five and is a very good game.

There are many great suggestions above. You might look at the games published by What's Your Game, most of which are very good euros. I'd start with Nippon or ZhanGuo.

 
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Derry Salewski
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Concordia. Keyflower.

If you're really looking to up the weight: Dominant Species, Food Chain Magnate and 1830.
 
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I highly recommend Tzolk'in!

The turns are pretty quick and with expansion, it can play up to 5. The expansion adds a lot (such as variable player power, and 'prophecy' element, which can be likened to 'scoring tiles' of Terra Mystica, so people have a common goal and/or plan ahead for future tiles), and I recommend it, also.

Viticulture is not as heavy, but I really love the theme. You should try it!
 
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Near and Far
Royals
The Voyages of Marco Polo
Alchemists
Village
Viticulture Essential Edition
Imperial Settlers
 
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Des Lee
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+1 Concordia, Marco Polo, Viticulture, La Granja, Mombasa, Great Western Trail, Tzolk'in, Yokohama, Troyes, Clans of Caledonia.

I'd also add:

Terraforming Mars (if the space theme isn't a turnoff, it's a great game!

Orleans or Altiplano

Manhattan Project: Energy Empire

Russian Railroads
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A lot of ppl made some great suggestions - great western trail, Mombasa, tzolkin, alchemists, anything from Vital Lacerda is a great choice... Nobody mentioned anything from Whats Your Game which is very surprising! These guys make Fantastic euro games!! Some very noteworthy games include Signorie, Madeira (which is a beast!), Nippon, Zhanguo are all great! Zhanguo might be hard to acquire now but its worth it i think!
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Johannes Sjolte
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It sounds like you need Power Grid. It's amazing, I hit on every thing you are looking for.

It looks kinda boring but it really isn't. Power Grid Deluxe: Europe/North America has a misleading name but it has a slidely prittier board than the standard version.

None of then can be played solo though. The two-player game is best in the "deluxe" version.
 
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Shane Larsen
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My favorite big, heavy Euros:

Through the Ages: A New Story of Civilization
Troyes
ZhanGuo
Kanban: Driver's Edition
Great Western Trail
Brass: Lancashire
Yokohama

This one isn't necessarily one of my favorites yet, because I haven't played it enough. But...

The Colonists

Good luck!
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