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Has anybody else bought a game from Amazon (3rd party seller though) and had a game arrive as new but without shrink-wrap - instead with those four round transparent stickers, one on each side sticking to the box and the lid (and tearing the box as they came off, bah!)

The games like that smell kind of stale too. This particular third party seller also just sent it in a jiffy-envelope and the box got damaged.

Anyway, yeah - is this normal having no shrink wrap and just four stupid stickers or not so?

Thank you for any replies.
 
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Depends on the game. The norm for non-mass market games are with shrink and not those stupid stickers.
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Not every game manufacturer shrink wraps. I know none of my Splotter Spellen came in shrink.

So I guess the answer is "it depends".
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MWChapel wrote:
Not every game manufacturer shrink wraps. I know non of my Splotter Spellen came in shrink.

So I guess the answer is "it depends".

Splotter's been shrink-wrapping for a few years now. Any non-shrink-wrapped game from them is not new.

I think I received my copy of the 2016 edition of Robo Rally non-shrink-wrapped though...
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Not every game manufacturer shrink wraps. I know non of my Splotter Spellen came in shrink.

So I guess the answer is "it depends".

Splotter's been shrink-wrapping for a few years now. Any non-shrink-wrapped game from them is not new.


That isn't totally true. I bought the latest version of Roads and Boats from a stack at FunAgain games at BGG.Con last year that none of them were in shrink.
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I got Imhotep new on amazon's prime deal day and it actually came without shrinkwrap or anything. The components were sealed and new and the box was in great shape but it struck me as very odd.
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If you write the company, they'll probably mail you the shrink wrap.

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PYR8 wrote:
Anyway, yeah - is this normal having no shrink wrap and just four stupid stickers or not so?

It's more common on "budget" or mass-market releases (e.g. the Target version of Las Vegas), stickering is cheaper.

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The games like that smell kind of stale too. This particular third party seller also just sent it in a jiffy-envelope and the box got damaged.

Fun fact: "New game smell," like new car smell, is just the components outgassing. Mmm, benzene!
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If you think that I prefer the "offgassing" of whatever stale odors and elements the boxes have been picking up since sitting around wherever for two or three years since being printed you're wrong. Bring on the benzene.

(Since we're discussing that I have heard that certain house-plants can absorb and process certain chemicals in the air, such as benzene to some degree, or maybe it's the microbes around their roots, I forget - the book is " How to Grow Fresh Air: 50 Houseplants That Purify Your Home or Office ")
 
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PYR8 wrote:
If you think that I prefer the "offgassing" of whatever stale odors and elements the boxes have been picking up since sitting around wherever for two or three years since being printed you're wrong. Bring on the benzene.


Yu should smell my Nexus Ops when I bought it....was singing Captain Jack after that.
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If you write the company, they'll probably mail you the shrink wrap.

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Because it allows the game to arrive/be received clean and fresh and crisp and some games without it may have been sitting in warehouses for potentially many months and picking up the smells around it - dust, scuffs, moisture in the air, ect. Also receiving a game without shrink-wrap is like paying for new but getting 2nd hand. Futhermore the alternative method apparently makes it very difficult not to accidentally tear up the box when I try to carefully peel them off in order to open them. That's why.


Simple question - and I have my answers now thank you all for that.
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PYR8 wrote:
some games without it may have been sitting in warehouses for potentially many months and picking up the smells around it - dust, scuffs, moisture in the air, ect.
Thin plastic is air- and moisture-permeable over that sort of time span. See, e.g., freezer burn.
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lomn wrote:
PYR8 wrote:
some games without it may have been sitting in warehouses for potentially many months and picking up the smells around it - dust, scuffs, moisture in the air, ect.
Thin plastic is air- and moisture-permeable over that sort of time span. See, e.g., freezer burn.


Unfortunately my freezer can only hold so many games ...
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If you told us what game it is, someone could tell you if it comes shrink-wrapped or not.

I know that Magic: The Gathering – Arena of the Planeswalkers, for example, comes with stickers (my copy still has them, as I've cut them in order to avoid damage to the box).
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If you told us what game it is, someone could tell you if it comes shrink-wrapped or not.

I know that Magic: The Gathering – Arena of the Planeswalkers, for example, comes with stickers (my copy still has them, as I've cut them in order to avoid damage to the box).



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PYR8 wrote:
GSReis wrote:
If you told us what game it is, someone could tell you if it comes shrink-wrapped or not.

I know that Magic: The Gathering – Arena of the Planeswalkers, for example, comes with stickers (my copy still has them, as I've cut them in order to avoid damage to the box).



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That one comes with no shrinkwrap, just the pesky stickers. Which is unusual. I have a copy and my son got one about a year later.

Talking of unusual shrinkwrap situations, Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire's rules are shrinkwrapped! Kinda a pain trying not to crease the manual taking the shrinkwrap off!

C'mon, industry, we need standardisation!



Have fun with the game, I really like it.
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PYR8 wrote:
GSReis wrote:
If you told us what game it is, someone could tell you if it comes shrink-wrapped or not.

I know that Magic: The Gathering – Arena of the Planeswalkers, for example, comes with stickers (my copy still has them, as I've cut them in order to avoid damage to the box).



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That one comes with no shrinkwrap, just the pesky stickers. Which is unusual. I have a copy and my son got one about a year later.

Talking of unusual shrinkwrap situations, Warhammer Underworlds: Shadespire's rules are shrinkwrapped! Kinda a pain trying not to crease the manual taking the shrinkwrap off!

C'mon, industry, we need standardisation!



Have fun with the game, I really like it.


Thanks for that

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It's more common on game boxes with tab closures. If I got a game that came in the plain lift-off-lid style box with sticker seals, I'd be suspicious. But tab closures? Nah, that's expected.
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It's more common on game boxes with tab closures. If I got a game that came in the plain lift-off-lid style box with sticker seals, I'd be suspicious. But tab closures? Nah, that's expected.


It's a plain lift-off-lid style box with sticker seals - and I tore it opening it though I tried to be careful. The box also came damaged in the mail.
 
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PYR8 wrote:
GSReis wrote:
If you told us what game it is, someone could tell you if it comes shrink-wrapped or not.

I know that Magic: The Gathering – Arena of the Planeswalkers, for example, comes with stickers (my copy still has them, as I've cut them in order to avoid damage to the box).



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The discussion on that topic:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1689905/so-game-does-not-co...

A lot of time you can search a game's forum, as if it didn't come in shrink, someone probably already asked.
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It is an interesting topic considering boardgaming as a hobby doesn't really have a standard for grading or describing condition like comics, trading cards, records etc.

A game without shrink but unpunched components? Its certainly not used, but is it technically new?
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lomn wrote:
PYR8 wrote:
some games without it may have been sitting in warehouses for potentially many months and picking up the smells around it - dust, scuffs, moisture in the air, ect.
Thin plastic is air- and moisture-permeable over that sort of time span. See, e.g., freezer burn.

It's one of those acquired associations in our consumer culture. New stuff smells a certain way, we enjoy buying new stuff, therefore we enjoy the smell. But anyone who's actually wrapped things with shrink can tell you it ain't airtight.

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It is an interesting topic considering boardgaming as a hobby doesn't really have a standard for grading or describing condition like comics, trading cards, records etc.

And thank God for that -- let's not enable the "MY RESALE VALUE!" crowd any further by establishing more of a grading system than we already have in the generic self-reporting of the Marketplace.
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Gloomhaven uses stickers in lieu of shrink-wrap.


Think of how many oil trees this conservation of shrink rap plastic saved.
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lomn wrote:
PYR8 wrote:
some games without it may have been sitting in warehouses for potentially many months and picking up the smells around it - dust, scuffs, moisture in the air, ect.
Thin plastic is air- and moisture-permeable over that sort of time span. See, e.g., freezer burn.

It's one of those acquired associations in our consumer culture. New stuff smells a certain way, we enjoy buying new stuff, therefore we enjoy the smell. But anyone who's actually wrapped things with shrink can tell you it ain't airtight.



I believe you - infact I have another game that came and the thing stinks of perfume or insence sticks or oily greasy talcum-powder and the shrink stunk and the box under the shrink stunk and the shrink didn't stop it from making the box stink. But even so - I suppose what it is at a gut-level is the feeling of "have I been ripped off" or "something isn't right". That brand-new smell of books and games in a way is what I associate with brand-new product, and if it has some other scent which is stale or perfumey or smokey or greasy ect, then it's telling me something different.

I don't care about "resale" value, and I am not neurotic about it at all - it's like getting a hair in a restaurant meal - it might not be particularly any less clean but it doesn't feel right.

Anyway, I was surprised as I thought that the round-stupid-stickers were a throwback to decades ago and not really standard - but point taken that even being in shrink-wrap doesn't guarantee that unwanted smells wont permeate - so it's also to do with how long the thing has been sitting on some shelf somewhere and how fresh from the print it is, ect.

Thanks for the search link.

 
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PYR8 wrote:
Has anybody else bought a game from Amazon (3rd party seller though) and had a game arrive as new but without shrink-wrap - instead with those four round transparent stickers, one on each side sticking to the box and the lid (and tearing the box as they came off, bah!)

The games like that smell kind of stale too. This particular third party seller also just sent it in a jiffy-envelope and the box got damaged.

Anyway, yeah - is this normal having no shrink wrap and just four stupid stickers or not so?

Thank you for any replies.


Did they sell it "like new" or as "new"?
 
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