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That title is a mouthful, I know.

Another thread on The Russian Campaign made me realize that's a game I had missed, and which I will probably pre-order. I guess I was too quick to dismiss it when it was put on P500. I tend to expect such games to be high complexity and/or monsters. But now I see that it might be exactly the kind of game I like to play solo, and it has the right complexity. It made me wonder what other low-to-medium complexity hex'n counter classics I might have missed. Let's say we restrict it to games which are popular enough to be ranked among the top 500 wargames.
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Silver Bayonet: The First Team in Vietnam, 1965 (25th Anniversary Edition) is a reprint/re-design/upgrade of Silver Bayonet: The First Team in Vietnam, 1965. Worth checking out imo
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Playing Silver Bayonet currently, but my first choice is Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939.

The string of turorial scenarios (and language in the rulebook) makes learning it a breeze.

A cold, snowy breeze.
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Playing Silver Bayonet currently, but my first choice is Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939.

The string of turorial scenarios (and language in the rulebook) makes learning it a breeze.

A cold, snowy breeze.

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A Victory Lost

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I play relatively few traditional hex and counter games at this point. That said, I would second recommendations for Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939 and A Victory Lost, and would add No Retreat! The Russian Front.
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I play relatively few traditional hex and counter games at this point. That said, I would second recommendations for Red Winter: The Soviet Attack at Tolvajärvi, Finland – 8-12 December 1939 and A Victory Lost, and would add No Retreat! The Russian Front.

Those are all excellent suggestions. I already own them (although I haven't tried No Retreat yet).
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Tornio '44 by Miku games is all that and not the most common theatre either.
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isnt there a geek list for this...
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Napolean's Last Battles https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4230/napoleons-last-...
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There are some small publishers worth seeking out who specialize in this type of game, such as Tiny Battle Publishing. Prices are generally cheaper, too, which is a nice bonus.
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TRC isn't even a monster, it is a one mapper with a relatively modest counter mix and 2 month game turns.

Classic playable monsters -

Terrible Swift Sword / Gleam of Bayonets
Wellington's Victory (OK a bit less playable before modding)
Leipzig Battle of Nations (simple, but use Schumpter's variant rules)
Wacht Am Rhein, Operation Typhoon (different battles, same system)
War in the East, Drang Nach Osten (same battle, different systems)
Hell's Highway (moderate scale)
Drive on Stalingrad (moderate scale)
Stalingrad Pocket 2nd Edition (moderate scale SCS)
Vietnam (Victory Games, long in time)

more recent examples -

The Mighty Endeavor (SCS division level, moderate scale)
It Never Snows / Day of Days (SCS company level)
GMTs Barbarossa series, any title
Caesar at Alesia (Great Battles of History mini-monster)

Sorry, I misread the title and thought you were asking for playable monster scale games, where the monster-ness comes from size but not from system complexity. You want *non* monster and non complex hex and counter wargames, yes?

A Victory Lost seconded. TRC sure.
France '40, Ukraine '43, Normandy '44, Holland '44, Ardennes '44
(Simonitch "year games" for short - also add the Caucasus Campaign).
Napoleon's Last Battles using Schumpter system.
Russia Besieged
Smaller SCS titles e.g. Afrika II, Crusader, Panzer Battles.
Panzergruppe Guderian (or Kiev, other 1 mappers in that series)
Glory series (US civil war)
simple Great Battles of History (many titles, many small)




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They're not exactly "classics", but most of the offerings from Revolution Games fit you requirements.
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JimboThulu61 wrote:
They're not exactly "classics", but most of the offerings from Revolution Games fit you requirements.


I think Battles of the Bulge: Celles especially from that stable is approaching classic status considering its wide appeal on this site.
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I am not sure if my game Celles is a "classic" as its only from 2012 but I do appreciate the kind words and at #373 is in the top 500.
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+1 for No Retreat! The Russian Front
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A couple of hex and counter's that intrigue me:

- The No Retreat series does look good; I'd probably try No Retreat! Italian Front: 1943-45
- I've been eyeballing all of the Hollandspiele line for a while. One (of many that looks interesting is Teutons!: Assaults on the West, 1870-1940; love the AH-classic emulating cover graphics.
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isnt there a geek list for this...


Existing Geek Lists don't jack up new topic clicks.
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Keep your eye out for these "Designer Signature Editions." Such games have stood the test of time and they are republished for a reason. Here's a short list:

Beda Fomm -- a re-release of the old GDW classic with better graphics. Quite the puzzle and plays wonderfully solo if that's what you want to do.

Bitter Woods: Designer Edition -- think of this as the "fifth edition." Need I say more? This wargame has legs. LONG legs!

The African Campaign: Designer Signature Edition -- the original was great and this version is even better! Compass Games added just a few variants, kind of like putting salt in this already terrific soup. Yes, you can play it solo as well!

Red Star/White Eagle: The Russo-Polish War, 1920 – Designer Signature Edition -- Yes, it's got two maps but not that many counters and it plays really fast. IMHO this was GDW's best wargame ever, and that is saying something given all the other titles this company produced. Try this new version; you'll love it.

Keep an eye out for the re-release of Russia Besieged: Deluxe Edition since that is a small step up from The Russian Campaign: Designer Signature Edition; there's a lot that feels the same but adds just a few small things. Definitely should be a contender.
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Red Star/White Eagle: The Russo-Polish War, 1920 – Designer Signature Edition -- Yes, it's got two maps but not that many counters and it plays really fast. IMHO this was GDW's best wargame ever, and that is saying something given all the other titles this company produced. Try this new version; you'll love it.

I'm OK with two maps. It's really the number of counters (and especially when it's high counter density) which kills true monster games for me.

Thanks for the suggestions, there were several in your post I will look out for.
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isnt there a geek list for this...


Existing Geek Lists don't jack up new topic clicks.

I didn't know there was anything to be gained from that, but thanks anyway, for giving me one more.
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A Victory Lost seconded. TRC sure.
France '40, Ukraine '43, Normandy '44, Holland '44, Ardennes '44
(Simonitch "year games" for short - also add the Caucasus Campaign).
Napoleon's Last Battles using Schumpter system.
Russia Besieged
Smaller SCS titles e.g. Afrika II, Crusader, Panzer Battles.
Panzergruppe Guderian (or Kiev, other 1 mappers in that series)
Glory series (US civil war)
simple Great Battles of History (many titles, many small)

The ones on this list which I've played personally -- A Victory Lost, The Russian Campaign and the Simonitch games, except for Holland '44, which I haven't played -- I would agree with. They're all classic, and you just couldn't go wrong with any of them. One game I would add is one which you already own: Liberty Roads.
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JimboThulu61 wrote:
They're not exactly "classics", but most of the offerings from Revolution Games fit you requirements.


I think Battles of the Bulge: Celles especially from that stable is approaching classic status considering its wide appeal on this site.

That's another good suggestion, and one which is cheap enough to order right away, which I just did.
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