This game looks interesting, but I wasn't able to find even basic details for the game online... I did some hunting around but the official site seems to be down, and the fan sites are all pretty out of date.
Is there anyone who can either list the various editions and expansions, and indicate how they are packaged OR can point me to an online resource with this information?
It seems that the Ramirez Edition has been promised for many years now, as far back as 2001. Is it likely this will actually be printed? The most recent post I saw on this topic indicated as of June 12th that release was being pushed back three or four weeks... which would mean it should be out there, in the hands of distributors... but it doesn't appear to be. Potomac shows it as being expected in store Aug 31st, and it is not in stock currently.
Assume I'm just curious about the game, and not interested in making a big investment... but want to have enough cards that I can experiment around a bit with deck building. What would you recommend I purchase?
It's a Zendrum. www.zendrum.com
The game died about 10 years ago.
I think the Ramirez edition was just a Fan project. Connery would not license his image to games, so it was underground.
It is being remade as 2nd edition right now. I haven't seen them.
Original sets were:
Arms & Tactics
Horsemen Of The Apocolypse
I believe Base and movie were the best and it started to get too many new rules after that.
It was a great game in its heyday, and that was long, long ago.
One device in Highlander was Plot cards. Basically, to get a nice effect to occur, you would need all three of a plot. To have any chance of completing plots means you need a LOT of cards.
Less than 100 per player is a bad idea. You will miss many game mechanics and possibly not even be able to put together a "legal" deck.
There's an auction for about 100 cards on eBay currently. No bids. Looks like if you're the only bidder, you could get it for about $8.50, including shipping. It's here.
There are a number of people here who are trying to trade (some or all of) their Highlander TCG cards away:
Here's a site with some info on the game (including the rules) that may be of use to you:
The Ramirez expansion, something sought by fans of the game and highly coveted, is supposed to happen. Actually, last I had heard was that it was delayed due to the printing company's inability to produce a quality product, and with the fan's support, it was delayed until things could get squared away. Now, since I haven't been involved in the game since early this year, I am not sure where things are at this point.
I found the following just researching it now. This was posted Jun 12, 2007, 3:55pm:
Ramirez is delayed
Much to my dismay, production did not ramp up as fast as I was promised. I cannot express how much this disappoints me. I will not allow it to go out half assed, and I will not allow production to be at a level that cannot support the tournament system or the demand. It is going to be done right this time.
I am asking you to be patient and be reassured that it is coming out only a few weeks late. I would guess 3-4 weeks at this point.
When it does we will have enough to ship to all distributors at once and fulfill all preorders. We will also have enough to make sure that anyone that orders cards will be able to get them. This should open the door for our tournament system.
Anyone that preordered cards, either through Ebay or from our website will receive a bonus pack of cards. The cards will make the wait worthwhile and will likely never be reprinted as I am hoping they will mark the release of the only Highlander 2E set to not hit its release date.
To soften the blow I am going to try something to see how it works.
I am offering a tournament deal on Ebay this week. Purchase enough cards to run 8 people in a sealed deck and you will receive as a bonus, rip cards, prize cards, and a quickening.
The caveat is you must submit to me a contact name, the time and location of your tournament so it can be posted on our website, before we ship cards.
I realize that 8 people is not many and you are welcome to purchase more than one if you want to run a bigger tournament.
I am testing this to see how well it works.
If it works I will be offering tournament packs, with and without sealed decks, in the near future before the release of the set. If it works I will also offer them to game stores at a discount.
Again I will start the league program as soon as I know I can deliver cards.
Thank you so much for your support.
The delays are a bit more confusing, and seem to be endless.
Three or four weeks passed, and there still were no indications that the product actually shipped, in fact, when I looked a few days ago, none of the major online vendors had the new edition, and there were a bunch of people on the various forums complaining about having paid for pre orders and still not having products or a definitive timeline as to when they could expect to receive product.
It's hard to publish a game, I understand that, and I also understand that it's easy to run into problems with other folks and get blamed for them... that said, there's definitely a bit of a witch hunt brewing, or maybe it's deserved, I dunno, for the guy who is having the new edition printed.
From the Highlander TCG fan forums, Ramirez expansion is still in limbo.
Mike Sager indicates that the ongoing problems are due to issues with the printer.
Some folks with preorders are pissed off as they've been waiting literally months, other folks seem to be patient.
Mike Sager himself at this point is not promising any particular date and says the cards will ship whenever he gets them...
Just thought I'd update this with status as I went to the site today to find out for myself what was going on.
The original sets put out by Thunder Castle Games (what is now known as 1st edition) were:
Series Edition (a.k.a. limited edition)
Arms & Tactics
The Four Horsemen
These were all available in standard Starter/Booster form. (except WC was booster only, I think.) The collation in Series and Movie Edition was terrible, but it got better after that.
Thunder Castle also produced 4 Collector's Tin Sets:
Series Edition Tin Set (corrected errata'd versions of Series Edition cards, 1 copy of each card in the set + 8 exclusive cards)
Watcher's Chronicles Tin Set. (one copy of each card in the set)
Methos Collection (a fixed collection of exclusive Methos cards)
Duncan Collection (a fixed collection of exclusive Duncan cards)
And several promotional cards.
Then TCG went under, (with the original Ramirez edition promised on the horizon) and some fans took up the charge, making online-only virtual sets under the banner of "MLE" (Missing Link Expansion). they made several sets:
Missing Link Expansion
Soldiers of Immortality
Brothers In Arms
World Without End
Heroines & Holy Men
Ramirez Collection (the MLE version)
Dark Duncan Collection
Michael Moore / Quentin Barnes
Carl Robinson Collection
Chronicles of Connor MacLeod
John Garrick Collection
MLE also made their own Promotional Cards.
These cards were available as downloadable .jpg files on the MLE website, distributed in random "booster" fashion.
Meanwhile SAEC Games took up printing actual (non-virtual) cards with their Black Raven collections.
They printed four fixed collections, entitled Black Raven vol 1-4, which were sold as charity sets. You made a donation online to the "Give Kids the World" or "SC Foundation" charities and got the sets as a "free gift".
They also printed their own promo cards.
They had their Millennium Edition promised on the horizon (and had released several preview cards from it as promos) when there was a spat with Mike Sager, and they dropped the game. (or were forced to drop it, depending on who you ask.) Millennium was to be a standard booster/starter set sold in game stores.
The latest iteration is 2nd Edition, from Le Montagnard games. They have released 2 confusingly named sets so far:
2nd Edition Beta
2nd Edition Expansion Beta
2EB was available as normal booster/starters, and 2EEB was booster only. Some rules changes make 2E not directly compatible with 1E cards. Some 2E cards have a symbol on them indicating that they can be used as-is in 1E, but 2E is essentially a complete reboot.
There were of course some promo cards as well.
Now, once again we have Ramirez Edition promised on the horizon, and Le Montagnard has split from their (atrocious) printer (rapidpod) and everything is once again in limbo.
It is in fact, a very fun game. Sadly, as you can see from the above, it's had a very tortured history. If you trust that 2E will resume eventually, you could pick up a box of 2E starters from http://www.potomacdist.com/ and that would be a good starting point. Otherwise, you can find some 1E stuff on ebay for pretty cheap. I'd recommend picking up a few Series Edition Tin Sets ($3.95) and Watcher Chronicles sets ($3.95) from here:
(I don't have any vested interest in that link, I've just bought a lot of HL:TCG stuff from him in the past and had good experiences.)
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