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What are your opinions on the two? I was just about to order this but I was told concordia was better. Also is there a new version coming out this year?
 
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I don't see them as comparable at all.
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I don't really think of these two games in terms of which is better than the other. Both are quite good. When I compare these games it's based on the fact that they're very different. Both in terms of theme and mechanisms. At a first pass I'd ask if you have a preference for the mechanisms of either game.

Troyes is about dice. Where you can use other people's dice... for a price. There's a lot of different things you can do, and part of the challenge of the game is finding a path to points.

Concordia is about cards. What you're doing is a lot more constrained, you're mostly getting stuffs to buy cards and build trading posts... it's really about creating synergies between the cards you get and what you do on the map.

Another factor to consider is what your groups will like. I have a lot more luck getting Concordia played, as it's a bit more straightforward.
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I think Concordia is a bit more accessible than Troyes for new players, but ultimately for me Troyes is the better game.
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Agreed: very different games. I love both of them, but have a harder time getting Troyes to the table. The iconography in Troyes takes some time to learn, and if people feel possessive of their dice it can feel confrontational. For me, Troyes is a heavier game than Concordia. Concordia shines when you have a group that grows in experience with the game together.
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Troyes is heavier and has more interaction. This is a plus for me, but YMMV.
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I think it’s way better—but as mentioned, it’s very different.
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Agree with Shane as well. Given the choice, I'm picking Troyes every time. It's my number 2 game. They are quite different, but the choice is clear - Troyes will never leave my collection and I haven't missed moving Concordia on.
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I didn't expect much from Troyes, but thought that Concordia would be right up my alley. After playing both, Concordia was "nice" while Troyes was amazing. (I'd happily play either game again, but would always select Troyes over Concordia if asked which we should play.)

That's only one data point, and I'm sure many people feel the opposite - especially if you ask the same question in the Concordia forums.

I do agree with others: the games are so different in how they feel and play that a direct comparison probably isn't meaningful. Both are good games, but they do very different things.
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Very different games. Personally, I prefer Troyes. Big time. Feels much more unique, fun and interactive.
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I have kept Troyes and sold Concordia. Troyes plays better and looks fabulous. Whilst Concordia is a good game it kept getting overlooked because the visuals are so unappealing and there are other games with a similar feel, eg Istanbul, that my group preferred.
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As others have said, an odd comparison, e.g. what's better - tasty fresh fruit or a good movie?
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Monkatron wrote:
tasty fresh fruit or a good movie?


Another easy one...fruit is terrible. devil
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I agree with all of the above. Even the fruit over the movie.

But keep in mind, you are asking this question in the Troyes forum.

Just sayin’.
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One thing to keep in mind... the people answering this in the Troyes forums might be a little biased.
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senorcoo wrote:
Agree with Shane as well. Given the choice, I'm picking Troyes every time. It's my number 2 game.


Troyes is my everything, I mean, my number one Just curious, which one is yours?
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Victor Mancha wrote:
senorcoo wrote:
Agree with Shane as well. Given the choice, I'm picking Troyes every time. It's my number 2 game.


Troyes is my everything, I mean, my number one Just curious, which one is yours?


Macao. I'm actually surprised someone didn't jump in and answer it for me.
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Bewl wrote:
I have kept Troyes and sold Concordia. Troyes plays better and looks fabulous. Whilst Concordia is a good game it kept getting overlooked because the visuals are so unappealing and there are other games with a similar feel, eg Istanbul, that my group preferred.


Exactly the opposite for me. I have a much harder time getting Troyes to the table. I rate them both as top-10 games for me, so you can’t go wrong. I find I have more desire to play Troyes most of the time, but Concordia does play 5 whereas Troyes does not, if that matters to you.
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BitsOWood wrote:
I think Concordia is a bit more accessible than Troyes for new players, but ultimately for me Troyes is the better game.


Agree 100%.
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GoingTopShelf wrote:
Bewl wrote:
I have kept Troyes and sold Concordia. Troyes plays better and looks fabulous. Whilst Concordia is a good game it kept getting overlooked because the visuals are so unappealing and there are other games with a similar feel, eg Istanbul, that my group preferred.


Exactly the opposite for me. I have a much harder time getting Troyes to the table. I rate them both as top-10 games for me, so you can’t go wrong. I find I have more desire to play Troyes most of the time, but Concordia does play 5 whereas Troyes does not, if that matters to you.


And I would add that, though it supports 4p, Troyes is at its best with 2 or 3.
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Troyes. I adore Concordia and have all of the expansions, but for me, Troyes is just on a whole other level. If I was in my big purge days of getting my collection down from 350+ to under 100 and had Concordia in one hand and Troyes in the other and had to get rid of one, while I'd certainly miss Concordia, it'd be no contest which one I kept. But as Rusty pointed out, you are asking in the Troyes forums.
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Victor Mancha wrote:
senorcoo wrote:
Agree with Shane as well. Given the choice, I'm picking Troyes every time. It's my number 2 game.


Troyes is my everything, I mean, my number one Just curious, which one is yours?

Troyes is my nearly-everything. If it weren’t for Through the Ages: A New Story of Civilization, it would be the love of my life.

And I’m currently having a love affair with Lorenzo il Magnifico, by the way.
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Concordia and Troyes are both in my top ten, but I like Concordia better. Which is the better game? It's a toss-up for me. Troyes is not the best @ 2, so I'd probably keep Concordia if it came down to it. Also plays fine with 5.
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Both are good & somehow difficult to compare. I cannot imagine my collection without any of them!
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the_windcaster wrote:
Concordia and Troyes are both in my top ten, but I like Concordia better. Which is the better game? It's a toss-up for me. Troyes is not the best @ 2, so I'd probably keep Concordia if it came down to it. Also plays fine with 5.

Oh see my wife and I love it as a 2p game. We think it lacks for nothing with just the two of us.
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