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I know this is trivial, but it's a slow day at work ;-)

I got tired of players asking me "How much health does that guy have left? Who has the most/least health?" So, instead of counting damage done to monsters starting at zero I now put out dice* with their full health when they spawn and count down to zero as damage is done.

Was wondering if there were other players in the "count down" camp?



* We use two dice for each monster using the "base 7" method. I.e. Health = black die * 7 + white die. It works all the way up to 48 health and it's good arithmetic practice for my 9 year old who is currently playing a very appropriate scoundrel.
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We just use the HP tracker app that updates to every mobile device and it solves all the problems. It also cuts down on table space, which is a huge concern for us.
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schoaff wrote:
I know this is trivial, but it's a slow day at work ;-)

I got tired of players asking me "How much health does that guy have left? Who has the most/least health?" So, instead of counting damage done to monsters starting at zero I now put out dice* with their full health when they spawn and count down to zero as damage is done.

Was wondering if there were other players in the "count down" camp?


Many of us. There are Standees the hold the two dice also.

EDIT: https://www.etsy.com/listing/568581026/gloomhaven-standee-he...

They are a life changer. They let the players moderate their own damage.
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Seen on a Facebook post to use these counters and they will be delivered tomorrow. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076J7LPXM/ref=oh_aui_deta...
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schoaff wrote:
* We use two dice for each monster using the "base 7" method. I.e. Health = black die * 7 + white die. It works all the way up to 48 health and it's good arithmetic practice for my 9 year old who is currently playing a very appropriate scoundrel.

Nice!
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We do exactly what you do.

I started putting chits and counting down. Then we switched to using aps to manage stuff.

But lately I really like using the cardboard instead of the ap and I just use Dice to count down to zero.
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If I weren't using an online app, I'd definitely use dice. I much prefer seeing how much health is left on an enemy over seeing how much damage I've done.
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Just remember this. If you are supposed to reduce a monster total health, with your method you should reduce current health.

I have seen in a previous post someone that got confused by this.
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Just remember this. If you are supposed to reduce a monster total health, with your method you should reduce current health.

I have seen in a previous post someone that got confused by this.


Thank you! We're only about 10 scenarios in and we haven't yet run across an instance of reducing monster total health. You probably saved me a headache there when we run into it.
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We use 3D printed bases for the monsters holding a small dice showing their current health. Dice type depends on max HP. Sometimes D20, other times D4, etc..
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We use an online app, it tracks everything for monsters (health/damage/move/attack/any conditions they have), except their current turns ability card. It also tracks elements.
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It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.

it amazes me that people are still playing board games in 2018. There are wonderful video and computer games....
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


Era has little to do with it. Not everyone likes the use of apps. I'm all for apps, and their integration to games, however, I do like tokens in this case.

I'm in favor of dice as it keeps everyone's eyes on the action rather than their phones/tablets. Besides, you still have to know which number is which monster, right? I'm going to use dice (and the above mentioned bases) so the numbers become irrelevant.

Besides, it's not like using tokens is some huge burden.
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


So what is this app called
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Standees with health tracking have the distinct advantage of having the info directly on the playfield.


Also I designed this
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2802623
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


Era has little to do with it. Not everyone likes the use of apps. I'm all for apps, and their integration to games, however, I do like tokens in this case.

I'm in favor of dice as it keeps everyone's eyes on the action rather than their phones/tablets. Besides, you still have to know which number is which monster, right? I'm going to use dice (and the above mentioned bases) so the numbers become irrelevant.

Besides, it's not like using tokens is some huge burden.


We put ours up on the TV screen, along with a second tab for the pdf of the rules. That way it's 1 easy display away, instead of everyone on an individual device.
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


We tried apps it was not better.



You still had to set it all up. You have to tell the app where you are how many monsters you have et cetera. Its not faster than sliding a stat card in a sleeve.

When the monster takes damage you have to reach over, find the monster on the app and press a button. Same with dice. You reach over find the monster and massage the dice.

When I was using an app with a Boss for a while I forgot that boss are immune to stuff that was not apparent with the app. We were cheating! So even with the App we needed to dig out the Stat card.

Plus doing it old school has some amount of charm.

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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


I prefer to not look at a screen as much as possible, especially when playing board games. That said I have friends you have used apps for tracking in various different games, and it doesn't bother me if they do. Nothing amazing about it. I'd also always rather read a real physical book than a kindle or online.
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Jayvir wrote:
We just use the HP tracker app that updates to every mobile device and it solves all the problems. It also cuts down on table space, which is a huge concern for us.


Which app is that?
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For me, this website was a blessing. It auto-populates the first room of each scenario. Tracks health, status effects, and will generate the monster's attack card.
https://www.gloomhavenguild.com
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I just got some 3D printed monster standee bases from Etsy that hold 2 10mm dice and 2 condition tokens. Haven't had a chance to play with them yet, but should help with the "how much health do they have?" question. And help us remember conditions too.

I've looked at the various apps, and I haven't used them for 2 reasons

1) We don't have a TV at our usual play location (though next week we will, so I might give one a try then)

2) One of my favorite things about board games is getting away from screens. I work in IT, so I'm on a computer all day. So unless the app is absolutely necessary for the game's mechanics (ie: XCOM, First Martians, Mansions of Madness 2E, etc) or enables a gameplay type not available without the app (ie: Descent 2E & Imperial Assault apps for pure co-op play), I'd rather play without and enjoy my time without screens.
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


I struggle to believe that my 14" phone screen is anywhere near as easy to see each and every monster's health for 4 people sitting around a table as dice on the monster stat sleeve.

I love when apps integrate into board games and have nothing against them. But in this case, tracking them on a phone means that not all monsters stats are going to be on screen at once and also that you will probably have to pass the phone around if people want to look at it/have one person constantly reading out information from it.

Dice on the stat sleeve are so obvious at a glance, they are definitely better than a phone. Dice on the standees are yet another step up in terms of visibility, but I don't like the look of them, as it would feel slightly less immersive and for the smaller standees the dice are too big.
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alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


I struggle to believe that my 14" phone screen is anywhere near as easy to see each and every monster's health for 4 people sitting around a table as dice on the monster stat sleeve.

I love when apps integrate into board games and have nothing against them. But in this case, tracking them on a phone means that not all monsters stats are going to be on screen at once and also that you will probably have to pass the phone around if people want to look at it/have one person constantly reading out information from it.

Dice on the stat sleeve are so obvious at a glance, they are definitely better than a phone. Dice on the standees are yet another step up in terms of visibility, but I don't like the look of them, as it would feel slightly less immersive and for the smaller standees the dice are too big.


Is there no larger screeen nearby? Either one of the apps with web integration, or even just an android emulator? As mentioned above, we have it up on my tv screen. 55" should be enough for most people.
 
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squegeeboo wrote:
Jjdelanoche wrote:
alcovitch wrote:
It amazes me that people are still using the chits or dice for this in 2018. There is a wonderfully simple app that does all of this for you. Everyone has a phone/ tablet right?

This makes it extremely easy for everyone to see all monsters, their current HP, normal elite status, status effects etc in real time.

I guess if you're a hippy Apple lover, you're out of luck though as I think the app is Android only.


I struggle to believe that my 14" phone screen is anywhere near as easy to see each and every monster's health for 4 people sitting around a table as dice on the monster stat sleeve.

I love when apps integrate into board games and have nothing against them. But in this case, tracking them on a phone means that not all monsters stats are going to be on screen at once and also that you will probably have to pass the phone around if people want to look at it/have one person constantly reading out information from it.

Dice on the stat sleeve are so obvious at a glance, they are definitely better than a phone. Dice on the standees are yet another step up in terms of visibility, but I don't like the look of them, as it would feel slightly less immersive and for the smaller standees the dice are too big.


Is there no larger screeen nearby? Either one of the apps with web integration, or even just an android emulator? As mentioned above, we have it up on my tv screen. 55" should be enough for most people.


My group plays at a brewery, and we don't have access to any of the few TVs there. So it's either use a tablet screen, or the monster sleeves, both would be about the same viewing size.
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