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~11er~and~Betterer~3~


Introduction

This game is the direct sequel to 11er and Better 2 - Good wins!, which was itself a sequel to11er and Betterer, which was itself a sequel to I used to be perfect; now I'm even better. The goal of this series is to design and perfect an 11 player set that is more balanced than the tradition “Hi” game.

The last run was pretty awesome, and there has been a single change to the set

Evil Roles

1 Brutal Witch Wolf: Each night, the Brutal Witch wolf may target another player to roleblock them. If that player is the seer, priest, hunterguard or the cursed expert sorcerer, that player's night action is canceled. The only indication that a player has that they were targeted is if their view fails to return a result. Cannot target the same player two nights in a row. On death, the Brutal Witch Wolf has a mandatory brutal.
1 Normal Wolf: Standard wolf.

1 Cursed Expert Sorcerer: Each night, the Cursed Expert Sorcerer may target another player and will learn that player's exact role, including if that player is brutal and if they are the tinker or the white hat. On N0, the Cursed Expert Sorcerer will get a view of the Brutal Witch Wolf. If the Cursed Expert Sorcerer is the target of the nightkill, there will be no kill, and the Cursed Expert Sorcerer will lose their viewing power and become a werewolf. (They will still get that night's view, however.) After promotion, the Cursed Expert Sorcerer counts for parity, is in wolf chat, and can help select the nightkill, but has no other powers.

Good Roles:

1 Priest: Each night, the priest may view a dead player and will receive exact information about that player's role, including if that player was brutal or the tinker. However, the Priest cannot distinguish between the starting normal wolf and a promoted Cursed Expert Sorcerer.
1 Alignment Seer: Each night, the seer may view a target player for their alignment. The tinker will be viewed as "evil". The Seer gets a N0 view of a random good player. 
1 Hunterguard: Standard parity hunter power. Additionally, each night may choose one other player to protect. If that player is the target of the wolves, there will be no kill and this power will be lost, but the Hunterguard is not informed that the power has been lost. May protect the same player on consecutive nights and may protect self.
5 Villagers

Attributes:

There will be 3 attributes in this game. They will be distributed to the good players by the mod on N0. Players will not know what attributes they have.

Brutal - Given to one of the Seer, Priest, or Hunterguard – This player must kill another player on death.
TinkerGiven to a randomly selected good role besides the seer – If the seer views this player, the seer will see “evil”.
White HatGiven to a randomly selected villager – When this player dies, their role will be revealed on death.

Brutal Rules:

The Seer, Priest, Hunterguard, and Brutal Witch Wolf will all have brutal orders. However, only the Brutal Witch Wolf and the role with the Brutal attribute will actual have the brutal power. The Seer, Priest, Hunterguard, and Brutal Witch Wolf will have 1st and 2nd brutal choice orders. When a brutal player dies, the target of the 1st brutal order will die unless they are already dead (only possible if there is a brutal chain), in which case the target of the 2nd brutal order will die. The Seer, Priest, and Hunterguard will all have these orders, but the orders will work for only one of them.

All brutals are mandatory. If a brutal player dies without a valid order in place, a random player on that player's team will be killed.

Changes from Last Game:
Seer has become an Alignment Seer


Differences Compared to 9-player game

The 9-player set (Wolf/Wolf/Sorc vs. Seer/Hunter/Priest/Villager x3) is used a point of comparison for balance, since it is regarded as a well-balanced set.

The biggest difference here is that good has an extra mislynch compared to the 9-player game. This potentially makes for a more relaxed set. Good has stronger overall specials, with the addition of the brutal and the Hunterguard's protection power, and has a bit more info with the presence of a white hat.

On the other hand, evil has also been strengthened significantly. Evil now has a brutal, a blocking power, and the Sorcerer's power is greatly increased. There is also the possibility of a 3rd wolf, and that wolf having been cleared by the seer. Good must also contend with the presence of an unaware tinker confounding the seer's views. In general, it is believed that this set balances similarly to the 9er.

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Walker says: Play nice. I have a long list of standard rules I usually put down here but I don't feel like retying it. It still applies, though. Be nice and have fun - I agree with this, be good and be someone you'd like others to be.

The game will be scheduled once full. A PM will be sent out when the game is full to make sure everyone is ready to play. Thanks.
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Vanderscamp
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How long before "Brutal Witch Wolf" gets shortened to "Bitch Wolf"?
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The Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally System

Your Moderator has enabled the Cassandra Automatic Vote Tally system
for this game. In order for it to function correctly, your votes will
need to be formatted correctly. The following rules will explain what
you will need to do:

Players
1. All votes must be bolded

2. The entire vote statement must be bolded and enclosed in brackets:
[vote jmilum]

3. If your game allows, and you [vote nightfall] your vote will
be locked. Your moderator may have disabled nightfall votes.

4. Vote tallies will be automatically posted to the game thread
regularly if the tally has changed. The Tally and Vote Logs (for each
game day) are also available on the Cassandra game page.

5. If your vote is not counted be sure to check the Vote Log page and
see if it was marked invalid and why.

6. Case does not matter and simple typos will not cause the vote to fail.

7. You may [vote no lynch] if your game allows it.

8. Non voting players will be listed in the tallies. This will only be
correct if the Moderator notes which players have been killed (see below)

9. Editing a vote post will invalidate the vote and it will not be counted.


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1. The moderator will need to post [Dawn] when the day begins
(after the night results are posted) and [Dusk] when the lynch
deadline has passed and the day is over. Votes will not be counted
after [Dusk] has been posted. They will be registered again
after [Dawn] is next posted.

2. You may include a day number in the dawn and dusk post for
informational purposes, but it will not be used by the system.
Cassandra will increment an internal counter each time it sees
[Dawn] no matter what day is shown in a dawn post (i.e.
[Dawn 3] the three is allowed but ignored)

3. After dusk has been posted, the Moderator may go to the game page
on Cassandra to request a Final Tally to be posted before the normal
scan period has elapsed (i.e. Game Y gets scanned at 45 min. after the
hour, if it lynches at 7pm the moderator may request a tally to be
posted from the game page before 7:45pm. it will also be posted
regardless of whether or not it has been changed since the last
posting) - Do this by clicking on the 'Force Vote Tally' link.

4. You will need to note which players were killed via the lynch or at night by
either posting [killed jmilum] in the thread, or by going to the game
page and editing the player list. When posting in the thread, be sure to post
[dusk] before posting the lynch kill, and post [dawn] before
posting the night kill.
Example:
A. lynch time has passed so post [dusk]
B. goto the game page and select a final tally to be posted
C. check the final tally and post [killed melsana]
D. after the night deadline has passed post [dawn]
E. post the night kill with [killed kima]

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Vote Log Page: http://cassandrawerewolf.com/game/1964085/votes
Vote Tally Page: http://cassandrawerewolf.com/game/1964085/tally
 
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oldhoss wrote:
How long before "Brutal Witch Wolf" gets shortened to "Bitch Wolf"?


Looks like 6 posts.
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[DAWN]

First Lynch is Tuesday. Good luck and have fun.

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[vote holdoss] for, uh, reasons.
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VOTE TALLY

Player (11/11) - # - Voted by

oldhoss - 1 - twomillionbucks(1)

Not Voting: Amekins, BeardMcMullen, BerenCamlost, dejojam1, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Samool, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

twomillionbucks - 1 - oldhoss(1)

Not Voting: Amekins, BeardMcMullen, BerenCamlost, dejojam1, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Samool, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit
 
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[Vote Beard] sorry for NKing you in Rookie. blush
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[Vote twomillionbucks]

 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (11/11) - # - Voted by

oldhoss - 1 - twomillionbucks(1)
BeardMcMullen - 1 - dejojam1(2)
zenofkermit - 1 - Samool(3)
twomillionbucks - 1 - Amekins(4)

Not Voting: BeardMcMullen, BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit


Nightfall votes are denoted by an '*' after the player's name.

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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Amekins - 1 - twomillionbucks(4)
dejojam1 - 1 - BeardMcMullen(2)
Samool - 1 - zenofkermit(3)
twomillionbucks - 1 - oldhoss(1)

Not Voting: BeardMcMullen, BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit
 
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[vote oldhoss]

Eeet is time for all the mortals of this pathetic universe to see my truest form, my most WOKEN formmmmmm. Yeeeeeeeessssssss.


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VOTE TALLY

Player (11/11) - # - Voted by

oldhoss - 2 - twomillionbucks(1), BeardMcMullen(5)
BeardMcMullen - 1 - dejojam1(2)
zenofkermit - 1 - Samool(3)
twomillionbucks - 1 - Amekins(4)

Not Voting: BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Amekins - 1 - twomillionbucks(4)
BeardMcMullen - 1 - oldhoss(5)
dejojam1 - 1 - BeardMcMullen(2)
Samool - 1 - zenofkermit(3)
twomillionbucks - 1 - oldhoss(1)

Not Voting: BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit
 
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dejojam1 wrote:
[Vote Beard] sorry for NKing you in Rookie. blush


Eeet is quite alright, in FACT, it awoke my soul from an eternal slumber that had taken places over millennia!

I thank you for AWAKENING meeeee! Yeeeeeeesssssss.
 
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dejojam1 wrote:
[Vote Beard] sorry for NKing you in Rookie. blush


[vote jejodam]
 
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Samool wrote:
[vote kermit]


[vote masool]
 
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Amekins wrote:
[Vote twomillionbucks]



[vote kimeans]
 
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VOTE TALLY

Player (11/11) - # - Voted by

BeardMcMullen - 1 - dejojam1(2)
zenofkermit - 1 - Samool(3)
twomillionbucks - 1 - Amekins(4)
oldhoss - 1 - twomillionbucks(1), BeardMcMullen(5)
Samool - 1 - twomillionbucks(6)

Not Voting: BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit


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INVERTED TALLY

Voter - # - Voted on

Amekins - 1 - twomillionbucks(4)
BeardMcMullen - 1 - oldhoss(5)
dejojam1 - 1 - BeardMcMullen(2)
Samool - 1 - zenofkermit(3)
twomillionbucks - 2 - oldhoss(1), Samool(6)

Not Voting: BerenCamlost, holliam, oldhoss, Quixima, Vanderscamp, zenofkermit
 
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