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Subject: Solo: do you use Soyuz-Soyuz as your primary EO lifter? rss

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Myles Carey

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Just finished my first OP play , Normal, won pretty easily.
Really enjoyed it. Played win condition = 1/2 base missions, all outer non explorable with 1/2 of OP missions (non-exp & revealed) points needed.

Anyway, many solo base game plays & one OP has me convinced all I need for heavy lifting is Soyuz-Soyuz.

It gets me 7 payload to earth orbit where I just stockpile and assemble what need over time.

I have never really bothered with Saturns playing solo.

Is that your general experience / approach when playing solo?

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Myles
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Juan Valdez
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Seanmyles wrote:
Anyway, many solo base game plays & one OP has me convinced all I need for heavy lifting is Soyuz-Soyuz.


I just wrapped up a OP game (major fail) using Soyuz-Soyuz. I like it. I may try multi-stage Saturn in the future, just to see how much junk I can get to orbit all at once. I bet quite a lot. Expensive though.
 
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Israel Waldrom
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I usually use Saturn-Saturn, which gets a payload of 20 to EO, and rarely use Soyuz.

When you start playing on Hard or Very Hard you'll find that the extra payload becomes very useful.
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Robert Manning
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It depends on what missions I want to achieve. If there are manned missions to Mars or Venus then usually Saturns will fill the lift to EO role; on the other hand, if probes by themselves get most of the missions completed then Soyuz do the job. There's a break-even point for any given combination of missions, but that calculation also depends on the order the missions are attempted and the results of testing.
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Roger BW
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Soyuz-Soyuz costs you $2.29 per mass to LEO; Saturn-Saturn costs you $1.50. If you need to launch more and frequent payloads it can be worth it, but generally I push Saturn early. As Robert says, it depends on the available missions.
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Adam Gastonguay
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I've never been a Saturn guy. Being able to only buy one a turn is too darn slow for me.

Unless I can get extra money from the moon, I stick with Soyuz. If I need to do a heavy lifting mission (Human on Venus, for example), I'll get Proton rockets, but that's as big as I get.

In multi-player, Saturns are easier to justify as the extra cash you get when the smaller missions get wrapped up by folks using the little rockets can help you fill in your expenses so you can get the big point missions at the end of the game.
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Josh Zscheile
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Soyuz for me. You get them proven faster, 7 payload mostly is enough, and you can transport cheap single mass stuff (like probes and junos) to orbit while testing without losing much.
Plus they give you access to protons which can be a game changer on larger heavy lift missions.
I also tend to use Soyuz in the base game, but in OP they are even better for the job as it is critical to get to the outer solar system locations with probes asap to scout for the missions you need to achieve.
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