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James Keith
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Who gets the start player token at the beginning of the game? The fifth step in the setup section reads:

The Rules, p. 2 wrote:
Place the Start Player token with the Collaborator placards and line them up beside the board.

However, the graphic showing the setup shows the start player token in front of one of the players. The next mention of the Start player is in the second bullet point of the "Initial Placement" section...

The Rules, p. 3 wrote:
Beginning with the Start Player and proceeding in clockwise order, each player places their Fishing Boat token in either the Harbor or the Fishing Area

And speaking of which, Where in the Fishing Area can players place? On Page 1 the picture of the game board seems to show the Fishing Area to be the entire left half of the board (all 6 spaces of the fishing row and the round track). Does this mean that players can place on any Fishing Spot card?

In addition, in the setup section in step 10, it says "Each player places their Fishing Boat Token on the Harbor Space (Setup Only)." I assume this means that, for the first round, everyone starts in the Harbor rather than having a choice, but does this means that the Initial Placement phase is skipped for the first round?

And even if it is, the Main step section *still* mentions the start player, so skipping Initial placement for the first round doesn't even answer my initial question!

This rule book is driving me insane
 
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The Setup is basically telling you where to put things on the table. Everyone identifies their boat and places it in the harbor. Identify the Start token and place it among those things that are selectable by the first person to leave the round. Then the game begins. First, select someone to be the Start player and give them the token. At the appropriate time, each player moves their boat to whichever spot they think the fishing is best for them. [In the pdf version of the rules, there is a First Player card and a First Player token. The intent being that the card would be among the other cards and would go to the first player to leave the round. When the round finishes the person with the card is given the token and the card is returned to the place with the other selectable cards.] The token stays in front of the First Player during play to remind everyone when a new market card gets turned over. Without a SP card, the token is simply given to the new start player.
 
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longagoigo wrote:
First, select someone to be the Start player and give them the token.

But that isn't outlined in any part of the text, and it's pretty standard thing to enumerate in any English rule book. It's not a bad thing if "who goes first" is "players decide," but most rule books have the courtesy to at least explain this!

longagoigo wrote:
[In the pdf version of the rules, there is a First Player card and a First Player token. The intent being that the card would be among the other cards and would go to the first player to leave the round. When the round finishes the person with the card is given the token and the card is returned to the place with the other selectable cards.]

That card sounds very useful, too bad one isn't included in my edition of the game.
 
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A lot of rulebooks say something like youngest or oldest player; or the last person to do ???, but we usually just pick someone, so not having it spelled out didn’t slow me down for a second. My KS version didn’t come with a Start player card either, but the printed rules are also different from the pdf rules, so perhaps they thought, rightly, that while it would make the changing of the Start player a bit clearer, it was basically unnecessary.
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